[12:26:38] <@peppy> DJKero: stop PMing me
[12:26:41] <@peppy> just stop it
[12:26:51] <@peppy> i will have to add you to my ignore list if you continue
[12:28:29] <DJKero> sorry
[12:28:38] <DJKero> but do something with https://osu.ppy.sh/u/128993
[12:28:55] <DJKero> or we're going to ragequit (?)
[12:29:55] <DJKero> also: https://osu.ppy.sh/u/289422
[12:30:18] <DJKero> That bat didn't understood it.
[12:31:01] <DJKero> http://puu.sh/2P84y.png
[12:32:12] <DJKero> Why making such a problematic thing like empty.wav hitsounds?
[12:32:58] <@peppy> is findinghitsounds which work such a problematic thing?
[12:33:13] <@peppy> i bet you haven't even tried
[12:33:18] <DJKero> its a problematic thing. yeah.
[12:33:20] <@peppy> because there are infinite possibilities
[12:33:26] <@peppy> find someone who can do it then
[12:33:33] <@peppy> get them to make a set of hitsounds for everyone to use
[12:33:38] <DJKero> theres a lot of songs that can't be hitsounded
[12:33:41] <@peppy> nope
[12:33:49] <@peppy> every map in taiko is hitsounded
[12:33:53] <@peppy> every map in osu! is hitsounded
[12:33:58] <@peppy> and every map in mania will be hitsounded
[12:34:02] <DJKero> but mania isn't osu! or taiko
[12:34:02] <@peppy> ranked ones, anyway
[12:34:12] <@peppy> it is osu!
[12:34:14] <@peppy> it runs inside osu!
[12:34:18] <@peppy> osu! is about hitounds
[12:34:21] <@peppy> therefore mania is about hitsounds
[12:34:24] <@peppy> if don't like ragequit
[12:34:27] <@peppy> be my guest
[12:34:31] <@peppy> that's my personal opinion btw
[12:34:34] <DJKero> Man!!!
[12:34:46] peppy points at glowing green exit sign
[12:35:01] <DJKero> You realize that you're forcing beatmappers to hitsound?
[12:35:08] <@peppy> that's awesome
[12:35:17] <DJKero> When Mania isn't for hitsounding?
[12:35:26] <@peppy> says you
[12:35:33] <@peppy> and every other "pro" mapper sorry
[12:35:34] <DJKero> Go and make a hitsounded version of Forgotten
[12:35:36] <@peppy> pro mappers who can't hitsound
[12:35:48] <@peppy> stop wasting my time
[12:35:52] <@peppy> there are only a few things i stand for
[12:35:53] <@peppy> one is hitsounds
[12:36:04] DJKero is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/192534 The Ghost of 3.13 - Forgotten]
[12:36:11] <DJKero> PLEASE, HITSOUND THAT
[12:37:07] <DJKero> If you hitsound EVERY NOTE and it sounds perfectly fitted to the song, we make a monument of you.
[12:37:22] <@peppy> easy
[12:37:25] <@peppy> ask any osu! mapper to do it
[12:37:32] <DJKero> and this song isn't really complex, theres a lot more.
[12:37:33] <@peppy> they'll have no problem
[12:37:57] <Louis> If you can't hitsound every note, it might be a sign that your map is overmapped.
[12:38:13] <Louis> But having said that, I'm half/half on the hitsound issue.
[12:38:15] <DJKero> Ohhh, yeah, because Osu! songs with hitsound are really nice.
[12:38:26] <DJKero> Some are.
[12:38:28] <DJKero> not ALL
[12:38:48] <DJKero> Forcing just ruins the music sometimes.
[12:38:52] <Louis> On one hand, I understand that osu! is a hitsound-based game, and allowing silent hitsounds would only make osu!mania feel more like a blatant copy of a similar game (O2Jam, BMS, etc)
[12:39:04] <DJKero> Its a copy
[12:39:11] <Louis> Key word is blatant.
[12:39:15] <lazy_rain> BMS is individually hitsounded though
[12:39:22] <lazy_rain> and so is O2Jam
[12:39:31] <DJKero> BMS Mappers are GODS
[12:39:36] <DJKero> the ones who keysound.
[12:39:40] <Louis> I mostly played custom charts, so yeah
[12:39:59] <xxbidiao> Things are a little different in osu! standard and osu!mania
[12:40:01] <DJKero> and O2Jam Keysounded CUSTOM songs... too.
[12:40:09] <Louis> Anyways, on the other hand, there's the issue of wasted effort on needless hitsounds.
[12:40:11] <DJKero> THEYRE GODS OF MAPPING
[12:40:14] <DJKero> Like DJPop
[12:40:21] <xxbidiao> CUSTOM hitsound song is great
[12:40:23] <DJKero> or PROGUY
[12:40:36] <@whymeman> Huh....
[12:40:41] <DJKero> Not every good mapper will hit/keysound all their maps.
[12:41:08] <DJKero> we don't get paid for mapping, and we have the right to choose how many time we will waste on them.
[12:41:15] <@dkun> uh
[12:41:20] <@dkun> there are such things as rules and guidelines
[12:41:24] <@dkun> you can choose what you want to do
[12:41:25] <@whymeman> As said... if you don't like it, leave.
[12:41:26] <lazy_rain> wouldn't that mean by the same guideline
[12:41:27] <DJKero> making us spend MORE TIME on them, its HORRIBLE.
[12:41:28] <@dkun> if so, then don't submit it
[12:41:34] <@dkun> we don't make you
[12:41:38] <lazy_rain> the BATs also decide whether they want it ranked or not
[12:41:39] <@dkun> but we have a standard for it to get ranked
[12:41:40] <lazy_rain> they have the right to
[12:41:51] <@whymeman> I KNOW, LET ME PUT ONE NOTE ON A BEATMAP AND CALL IT FINISHED.
[12:41:51] <@dkun> I hope you understand this, for being here since 2007
[12:41:53] <DJKero> they can't.
[12:42:07] <@whymeman> That's how I see if you don't want to spend more time on it
[12:42:33] <DJKero> you are not really smart