20:33 *Revy is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/256973 Ryu* - Mind Mapping (kors k mix)]
20:33 Revy: pls
20:33 vipto: pls
20:33 vipto: i'll take a look
20:34 vipto: my internet is trolling again
20:34 Revy: wtf
20:34 vipto: 100k bandwidth
20:34 vipto: and it's so damm slow with the wi-fi
20:35 vipto: wi-fi kills 80% of ir
20:35 vipto: *it
20:35 Revy: oh lol wi-fi
20:35 Revy: we still have a shitty bandwidth
20:35 *vipto is playing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/256973 Ryu* - Mind Mapping (kors k mix) [Extreme]]
20:37 vipto: how many maps have you made so far?
20:37 vipto: type revy into song select and tell me the number
20:37 Revy: many
20:38 Revy: inb4 you will flame me because the map is shit
20:38 Revy: 32
20:38 vipto: First of all
20:39 vipto: this isnt bad
20:39 vipto: but you still havent found your....sweet spot
20:39 vipto: you need more practice
20:39 Revy: how?
20:39 Revy: how can i practice?
20:39 Revy: lol
20:39 vipto: you stress the song where it shouldnt be stressed
20:39 Revy: stress?
20:40 vipto: stress.
20:40 Revy: i don't get it
20:40 Revy: lol
20:40 vipto: it's about music representation
20:40 vipto: you made a nice map
20:41 vipto: but the map doesnt really fit the song.
20:41 Revy: dude this will be an another , not a Extra
20:41 Revy: but really , why it doesn't fit with the map
20:41 Revy: ?
20:41 Revy: because there aren't jumps?
20:41 Revy: o_o
20:41 vipto: no.
20:41 vipto: let me show you
20:41 vipto: 00:50:215 (1) - 
20:41 vipto: here
20:42 vipto: here you did great with representing the music
20:42 vipto: the song feels very edgy and 'hard' right there
20:42 vipto: so you made these double jumps
20:42 vipto: 00:54:149 (1) - 
20:42 vipto: here too
20:42 vipto: very well done
20:42 vipto: high pitched continuing curve
20:43 vipto: fits the song very well
20:43 vipto: 00:11:526 (3) - 
20:43 Revy: ^^'
20:43 vipto: this is bad
20:43 vipto: why did you do that?
20:43 Revy: I don't know
20:43 Revy: i thought it was good
20:43 vipto: mapping is not about only placing patterns
20:43 vipto: does the music sound "straight" at this point?
20:43 vipto: listen to it
20:44 Revy: mhm..
20:44 Revy: if it not
20:44 Revy: what can i put?
20:44 vipto: http://puu.sh/337XC.jpg
20:44 vipto: it's that easy.
20:44 vipto: ._.
20:44 Revy: .___:
20:45 vipto: you can do everything that fits
20:45 vipto: this would fit too
20:45 vipto: let me...a sec
20:45 vipto: http://puu.sh/337ZN.jpg
20:45 vipto: something like this
20:45 vipto: 00:12:510 (2) - 
20:45 vipto: right here
20:46 vipto: you tried to get these singles with a slope right?
20:46 Revy: yes
20:46 vipto: but doesnt it sound like zig zag?
20:46 vipto: ascending upwards?
20:47 vipto: http://puu.sh/3383O.jpg
20:47 vipto: 00:17:592 (1) - 
20:47 vipto: here you did well again
20:47 vipto: these triangles could be done and flow better but they fit
20:48 vipto: 00:19:887 (1) - 
20:48 vipto: these upward squares are cool too
20:48 Revy: yeah , that point is good because it fits good
20:48 Revy: now im getting it..
20:48 vipto: you just have to learn what fits good
20:49 vipto: and for that you have to really think about what you are doing
20:49 vipto: not just place shit and done.
20:49 Revy: you're right
20:49 Revy: D:
20:49 vipto: 01:00:460 (5) - 
20:49 vipto: with streams
20:49 vipto: when something sounds 'fast'
20:49 vipto: then choose a fast stream
20:50 vipto: http://puu.sh/338b4.jpg
20:50 vipto: this doesnt sound compressed at all doesnt it?
20:50 Revy: maybe
20:51 vipto: and push yourself to perfect execution
20:51 vipto: doesnt matter if it takes an hour more
20:51 vipto: the product has to be good
20:51 Revy: this map takes me 2 days for completing it
20:51 vipto: the speed will come by itself
20:52 vipto: i am capable of finish a 4diff mapset in one day xD
20:52 vipto: *finishing
20:52 Revy: wtf
20:52 Revy: how
20:52 vipto: idk man
20:52 vipto: i'm just fast
20:52 vipto: and try to be as creative as possible
20:53 vipto: step away from stuff you have done the last time
20:53 Revy: creative is the first thing on mapping
20:53 vipto: try to map differently every time 
20:53 vipto: *different
20:53 Revy: oh
20:53 Revy: i will do it then
20:53 vipto: here
20:53 vipto: look http://puu.sh/338ji.osz
20:54 vipto: you can do awesome things with sliders too
20:54 vipto: represent difficult parts in the song
20:54 Revy: ohh
20:54 Revy: Kola Kid
20:54 Revy: <3
20:54 *vipto is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/256755 Kola Kid - good old times]
20:54 vipto: hehe
20:54 vipto: next map i wanna rank
20:55 vipto: <3
20:55 vipto: chiptune
20:55 Revy: i love it
20:55 vipto: 00:20:100 (5) -  
20:55 vipto: this
20:55 vipto: this is musical representation at it's best
20:55 Revy: zigzag slider
20:56 vipto: it's little details that make a map good
20:56 vipto: the streams didnt feel fast so i kept them compressed
20:56 Revy: the song is nice
20:56 vipto: melody felt 'round' so i kept the sliders round
20:57 vipto: i hope i helepd you with my little lesson
20:57 vipto: :)
20:58 Revy: sure
20:58 Revy: :D
20:58 Revy: you helped me a lot
20:58 vipto: glad to hear that :D
20:58 vipto: feel the music
20:58 vipto: that's all you gotta do
20:59 vipto: i suggest you to remap that
20:59 vipto: lol
20:59 Revy: from 0?
21:00 vipto: yes
21:00 Revy: oh shiet-
21:00 vipto: make me proud
21:00 Revy: ok i will try
21:00 vipto: oh 
21:00 vipto: i forgot one thing
21:00 Revy: tell
21:00 vipto: flowkeeping
21:01 vipto: it's very important too keep the flow through jumps
21:01 vipto: players or basicly everyone tends to draw a curve when they want to draw a straight line
21:01 vipto: it's just how the anatomy of the hand works
21:01 vipto: you you are good to go with mostly circular flow
21:01 Revy: when i try to do straight movements
21:02 Revy: i make curves
21:02 vipto: *so
21:02 Revy: and idk how the fuck some players
21:02 Revy: does straight movements
21:02 Revy: fuck it ;;
21:02 vipto: 00:56:772 (1,2,3) - 
21:02 vipto: look
21:02 vipto: you got a curve from 1 to 3
21:02 vipto: but with 3 you change to flow downwards
21:03 vipto: breaks the flow
21:03 Revy: suggestions for fix it?
21:03 vipto: one thing i do
21:03 vipto: i draw along what i have mapped with my mouse
21:03 vipto: and if it feels easy to draw along then i keep it
21:03 vipto: such a direction change feels weird
21:04 vipto: try it yourself
21:04 vipto: let it play and move along the sliders and circles with your mouse
21:04 Revy: uhh
21:04 Revy: okay i will try
21:04 Revy: D:
21:04 vipto: 01:02:018 (1) - 
21:04 vipto: here you did goog
21:04 vipto:  *good
21:05 vipto: you can even improve it
21:05 vipto: let me show you
21:05 Revy: okay
21:05 vipto: http://puu.sh/338OV.jpg
21:05 vipto: flow is even better now
21:05 vipto: and it looks better
21:05 vipto: gave the 1/2
21:05 vipto: a curvier look
21:06 vipto: increased the spacing and moved 3 up a bit
21:06 vipto: jumps like this can be insanely big but you will always hit then because it flows so good
21:06 vipto: *the,
21:06 vipto: m
21:06 vipto: i can type
21:06 vipto: music pitch is a thinh to consider to
21:07 vipto: when the song gets higher try to map upwards
21:07 vipto: and the other way round
21:07 vipto: upward jumps for higher
21:07 vipto: downward for lowering music
21:08 Revy: hmm
21:08 vipto: save this chat. it will help you
21:08 Revy: i will do a training for it
21:08 Revy: yeah
21:08 vipto: great
21:08 Revy: done
21:08 Revy: :D
21:08 vipto: make me proud ;D
21:08 Revy: i will try
21:08 vipto: it all comes with expirience
21:08 Revy: >__<
21:08 vipto: i found all this out myself
21:08 vipto: but most people dont really think about it that way
21:09 vipto: they just do something and call it insane
21:10 Revy: yeah i know
21:10 Revy: most people does it
21:11 vipto: *do
21:11 vipto: :)
21:11 Revy: oh
21:11 Revy: right