[11:32:56 PM] lambdadelta: but that's still the thing [11:33:01 PM] lambdadelta: if mora holds k9's life in his hands [11:33:10 PM] lambdadelta: how is he to believe that he HASN'T manipulated k9 [11:33:29 PM | Edited 11:33:52 PM] lambdadelta: because k9 admits he'd do anything to fix what's wrong between him and mora [11:35:15 PM] lambdadelta: he could get over the 'k9 is manipulating me' bit because he couldn't see how that was a thing [11:35:33 PM] lambdadelta: but he can see 'i am manipulating k9' and k9 WOULDN'T have said anything [11:35:56 PM | Edited 11:36:53 PM] lambdadelta: you stated before that if mora used him like a toy, k9 would be okay with it, wouldn't he? how is that NOT weird [11:39:29 PM] keri: because k9 knows mora's his soulmate and can't imagine a happy life without him. he's desperate and lost. his entire life he's just piggy backed on other people - living outside of the law in a hive his lusus killed for with things he stole from neighbors or FLARP victims, to living with ratakk and then win, and now eridan and murphy and carol, he's never been self-sufficiant. he's never been in a real battle so he doesn't even know if he CAN fight - other than SGRUB, of course, but that wasn't on his own merrits. and if eridan won't even talk to him then how valuable is his word? he couldn't help ioudas, he hardly helps kanaya just listens to her then they cuddle. [11:39:38 PM] keri: he doesn't see himself as being valuable beyond being a slave. [11:39:55 PM] keri: but if eridan was willing to try to listen to him, to work things out, then maybe he really would fulfill his dream [11:40:10 PM] keri: but again, astrea's word was more important than what he'd tried to prove to eridan [11:40:13 PM] keri: so it doesn't matter. [11:40:18 PM] keri: he knows he's not valuable to eridan.