me:  :P
body hair is a masculine trait which is why women shave, same reason they wear curvy clothes instead of straight clothes like men
 Stacy:  ALSO it's a tool
i mean makeup is a tool
 me:  in general
 Stacy:  pretty people always get things easier
uh, a lot of men's fashion involve fitted clothing too
but men don't have waists
or boobs
 me:  yes
higher hip:waist ratio than men
leading to an hourglass shape from chest/shoulder:wast:hips
whereas men have narrower (relative to waist and shoulders) hips because we don't have to give birth
 Stacy:  yea so men are ideally more like downward pointed triangles
so?
body hair isn't masculine, it's natural :/
did women shave in the past? no?
 me:  I mean I personally don't mind body hair on women
 Stacy:  bc it's retarded and makes people more prone to skin irritations and infections etc
 me:  but I mean
stacy
I love you but
if you have a beard and a mustache
and sideburns
 Stacy:  FACIAL hair isn't natural on most women
arm and leg hair? armpit hair? pubic hair?
litearlly everyone has them
 me:  sometimes it looks really bad
I personally don't mind though
 Stacy:  so why don't guys "look bad" when they wear shorts without shaving?
or shortsleeve shirts
 me:  idk why are you asking me
I have the worst hygiene
 Stacy:  lol
bc has anyone ever said you should shave your arms/legs?
 me:  I get haircuts twice a year
uhm yes plenty of people said I have really hairy legs and arms
lol
 Stacy:  that's not what I asked
has anyone implied that you should shave them?
or is it more of a general "lol you're hairy' comment?
bc girls get the "wow that girl really needs to shave" ALL the time
 me:  I mean
just body hair?
 Stacy:  yea
I alreayd said facial hair doesn't apply since the vast majority of girls don't have any so it's not comparable
 me:  I mean
nature is irrelevant
my facial hair is natural
but it looks like shit
even you say so
that's why I shave right?
it's like saying you shouldn't trim your toenails because they grow that way
 Stacy:  nah that's more preference
there's plenty of bearded men
and women who like bearded men
I just hate facial hair
my dad never had any so I think it's weird
all of my family members are clean shaven
 me:  "standards of preference apply to men but not to women"
 Stacy:  I'm saying it's not a "preference" so much as a social requirement now for women to shave their arms and legs
 me:  I don't really care
I don't mind shaving if you like it
 Stacy:  seriously if I had hairy legs like this http://images.sodahead.com/polls/000050992/polls_hairy_legs_3316_225798_answer_1_xlarge.png
do you really think people wouldn't make comments behind my back all the time?
I'm just lucky bc I have basically no arm/leg hair
 me:  yeah I mean
http://static5.businessinsider.com/image/51deb7706bb3f74367000004/cia-let-terrorist-mastermind-khalid-sheikh-mohammed-design-a-vacuum-cleaner.jpg
if I looked like this
I would expect the same lol
 Stacy:  that's bc he's unkempt and dirty looking
that pic I sent you?
she's well dressed and nice looking
but she has hairy legs
I would bet people would still talk about ehr behind her back
 me:  yeah that's not very appealing
I mean stacy if you look bad that's whatever
I'm not going to make fun of people for looking crappy
or tell them what to do
that's their own choice
 Stacy:  yea but everyone else does :/
 me:  so?
 Stacy:  I'm just complaining about society in general
like if I married a white person and had a daughter
she'd prob be hairy
and I wouldn't want her to shave
but she'll prob get bullied if she doesn't
society is retarded
 me:  if I had a son and he had facial hair I'd make him shave
so he has a chance with women
but really it's up to him
I wouldn't care
I would just be like son
most ladies don't like facial hair
just take a couple minutes to shave it
 Stacy:  lol
do you get ingrown hairs when you shave?
 me:  what's that
 Stacy:  I experimented with shaving for like a few months a year or two ago and decided it wasn't worth the effort
it's like when you get a pimple where you shaved
except it's not a pimple
it's a red dot that appears bc the hair trying to regrow gets stuck under the surface of the skin
 me:  what did you shave .-.
 Stacy:  it goes away by itself in a few days but it's irritation
irritating*
uh I do have underarm hair and public hair :P
 me:  public?
 Stacy:  ..pubic derp
 me:  lol
 Stacy:  I didnt even have underarm hair until college :(
I blame the american diet
 me:  uhh
yeah I think that might have happened
the things I do for you stacy
 Stacy:  shh you were shaving your face way before you met me
 me:  NO LOL
HAHA
I ONLY shave right before I see you
you should see me a day before I leave
 Stacy:  what did you do? walk around hs looking like a gorrila?
 me:  YES
fuck
that's why I told you I looked liek a terrorist
the first time we met
that was the worst
I'm surprised you don't remember
 Stacy:  your fb pics say otherwise
 me:  yeah I shave when I go out to nice places because I want to look nice
??
 Stacy:  lol...
did you actually ahve a full beard
or was it more like stubble
 me:  almost a full
if women or men don't want to shave that's their right, but it's no one else's responsibility to like it
 Stacy:  ahahahaha
OMFG MATTHEW FINALLY SHAVED HIS BEARD
from no-shave-november (-december-january)
attractiveness level ++
objectively.
well. I guess subjective bc I hate beards
butI told him his beard was ruining his face
 me:  lol
yeah
facial hair generally doesn't look good
 Stacy:  hahah
the guys inmy lab kept their beards neatly trimmed
so it wasn't bad
I just hate beards
grr
my family's always been the type that shaves every morning without fail
if my dad is late for work he will still brush his teeth and hair and shave