[19:22:57] <Elsify> Hey
[19:23:21] <[JPN]Marca> fine
[19:23:24] <[JPN]Marca> start explaining
[19:23:27] <Elsify> Alright
[19:23:32] <Elsify> There's some bug
[19:23:38] <Elsify> when u reach 2.1B
[19:23:45] <Elsify> ur money goes to the negative
[19:23:56] <Elsify> I can ADMIT it I stored money with my cousin
[19:23:59] <Elsify> to avoid this bug
[19:24:15] <[JPN]Marca> is the bug confirmed or reported anywhere?
[19:24:27] <Elsify> Ye
[19:24:31] <Elsify> Blacklite
[19:24:33] <Elsify> said it somewhere
[19:24:39] <[JPN]Marca> bl isn't a bug report...
[19:24:59] <Elsify> isn't what
[19:25:14] <[JPN]Marca> forget it...
[19:25:23] <Elsify> Ok
[19:25:30] <[JPN]Marca> so you though it would be okay to just go and share accounts with someone or ask them to hold your money?
[19:25:54] <Elsify> I didn't share accounts
[19:26:21] <Elsify> if holding money with someone to avoid some "bug" is bannable
[19:26:29] <Elsify> so it's ok to take the 2months
[19:26:39] <[JPN]Marca> generally
[19:26:45] <Elsify> http://puu.sh/7oqHU
[19:26:48] <[JPN]Marca> by using another account to hold YOUR money
[19:26:53] <[JPN]Marca> it means YOU'RE multiaccount
[19:27:11] <Elsify> more like sharing accounts
[19:27:14] <Elsify> not multi tbh
[19:27:40] <[JPN]Marca> you didn't even bother asking an admin about it
[19:27:46] <[JPN]Marca> but you thought it would be okay
[19:27:47] <[JPN]Marca> we're done
[19:27:51] <[JPN]Marca> use the ban appeal
[19:27:58] <Elsify> Alright
[19:28:18] <Elsify> I didn't mean it 
[19:28:25] <Elsify> but i've seen others doing it
[19:28:58] <[JPN]Marca> then you report them
[19:29:12] <Elsify> how would i know it's against the rules
[19:29:14] <Elsify> man 
[19:29:22] <Elsify> I just knew that holding money isn't allowed few days ago
[19:29:35] <Elsify> I was holding money with some other player
[19:29:43] <Elsify> and took it 
[19:29:44] <[JPN]Marca> you couldn't link the "1 person > 1 account"
[19:29:47] <Elsify> u can see the logs
[19:30:12] <Elsify> what?
[19:31:12] <[JPN]Marca> I'll have a discussion with the other admins if we should remove your money or not
[19:31:15] <[JPN]Marca> good day
[19:31:41] <Elsify> idc about money
[19:31:42] <Elsify> but
[19:31:45] <Elsify> it's my right 
[19:38:54] <Elsify> so?
[00:20:52] <Elsify> Hey, let's discuss please?
[00:21:01] <[JPN]Marca> about what?
[00:21:49] <Elsify> About what happened actually
[00:21:55] <Elsify> "my ban"
[00:22:06] <[JPN]Marca> nothing to discuss
[00:22:29] <Elsify> so.. how?
[00:22:33] <Elsify> am innocent
[00:22:40] <[JPN]Marca> no, you're not
[00:22:52] <Elsify> ok, tell me why
[00:22:56] <Elsify> so I can respond
[00:23:21] <[JPN]Marca> read the reason of the ban
[00:23:26] <[JPN]Marca> also sharing accounts
[00:23:45] <Elsify> explaind sharing accounts
[00:23:55] <Elsify> like I join with my cousin's account?
[00:24:01] <[JPN]Marca> did you?
[00:24:20] <Elsify> did I? lol no
[00:24:41] <[JPN]Marca> have you or have you not send him YOUR money to hold it for you?
[00:25:02] <Elsify> I did
[00:25:08] <[JPN]Marca> I rest my case
[00:25:10] <Elsify> but, I never knew it's against the rules
[00:25:18] <Elsify> there's no rule somewhere says that
[00:25:31] <Elsify> whoever knows my ban reason they go like wtf is that
[00:25:39] <[JPN]Marca> so lets say I got high taxes and I'm not a donator
[00:25:55] <[JPN]Marca> and I'll just use some other account or a friend who's a donator to store my money so I won't lose it
[00:25:57] <[JPN]Marca> is that allowed?
[00:26:02] <Elsify> ofc not
[00:26:08] <[JPN]Marca> your case is no different
[00:26:13] <Elsify> it is
[00:26:26] <Elsify> I avoided some sacnr bug
[00:26:27] <[JPN]Marca> same end result, different scenario
[00:26:30] <[JPN]Marca> no
[00:26:32] <[JPN]Marca> you haven't
[00:26:37] <Elsify> I did
[00:26:44] <[JPN]Marca> you hardly have 1bil on you
[00:26:53] <Elsify> Look
[00:26:58] <Elsify> I have 1B now
[00:27:08] <Elsify> waleed had 1.6B a week ago
[00:27:13] <Elsify> He lost 1b some how
[00:27:22] <Elsify> because he had more than 1B in bank
[00:27:28] <Elsify> so 1b gone
[00:27:35] <Elsify> I had 2b+
[00:27:49] <[JPN]Marca> and has the bug ever occured to you?
[00:28:12] <Elsify> sorry what u mea
[00:28:13] <Elsify> n
[00:29:45] <[JPN]Marca> did you ever get your money reset by this 2.1b bug?
[00:30:02] <Elsify> that's why I avoided it
[00:30:31] <Elsify> Waleed lost 1b coz of some bug like this 2.1B one
[00:30:34] <Elsify> and he didn't get refund
[00:30:38] <[JPN]Marca> how can you be sure the bug is there?
[00:30:38] <Elsify> why should I risk???
[00:30:47] <[JPN]Marca> no proof of it
[00:30:52] <[JPN]Marca> the explanation from bl is old
[00:31:06] <[JPN]Marca> you didn't notify any admins or even cared enough to ask
[00:31:14] <[JPN]Marca> you even said that you don't care about the money
[00:31:25] <[JPN]Marca> so heck, why are we even having this discussion?
[00:31:29] <Elsify> yes I don't care about the money from now on
[00:31:31] <Elsify> it caused me a ban
[00:31:52] <Elsify> Marca, please, stop trying to make me guilty when am not
[00:31:56] <Elsify> this bug exists
[00:32:00] <[JPN]Marca> prove it
[00:32:03] <[JPN]Marca> oh wait
[00:32:08] <Elsify> go try it if you can't believe me nor Blacklite
[00:32:09] <[JPN]Marca> you decided to store money on different accounts
[00:32:19] <Elsify> "To avoid bug"
[00:32:21] <[JPN]Marca> no
[00:32:26] <[JPN]Marca> you evade lots of other stuff
[00:32:29] <[JPN]Marca> like medical fees
[00:32:34] <Elsify> To avoid medical fees?
[00:32:36] <Elsify> I don't think so
[00:32:40] <Elsify> I paid 3B+ meds
[00:32:41] <[JPN]Marca> or the limit every other player gets
[00:33:07] <[JPN]Marca> so why should you be any different?
[00:33:32] <Elsify> because I didn't store money with him to avoid medical fees for example
[00:33:45] <Elsify> I just did to avoid the 2.1B bug
[00:33:53] <[JPN]Marca> is the bug confirmed?
[00:34:01] <[JPN]Marca> and also
[00:34:02] <Elsify> It never happened before
[00:34:04] <[JPN]Marca> you're missing the point
[00:34:11] <[JPN]Marca> you never asked an admin if you can do it
[00:34:20] <[JPN]Marca> every player, is allowed to only have 1 account
[00:34:30] <Elsify> why would I when there's no rule doesn't allow it please?
[00:34:41] <Elsify> so do I have more?
[00:34:55] <[JPN]Marca> You are only allowed to use one account / username. You must keep your password secure, and you must not "lend" your account to anyone else.
[00:35:08] <[JPN]Marca> pretty simple rule
[00:35:35] <Elsify> I don't mean that
[00:35:38] <Elsify> I mean
[00:35:49] <Elsify> there's no rule doesn't allow storing money in someone's account
[00:35:59] <Elsify> Everyone does it
[00:36:03] <Elsify> like all do it
[00:36:31] <[JPN]Marca> http://forum.sacnr.com/threads/27098-Holding-onto-stuff-for-your-friends
[00:36:40] <[JPN]Marca> then everyone would be banned by now
[00:37:44] <Elsify> then ban everyone
[00:37:46] <Elsify> man seriously
[00:37:50] <Elsify> no one knows that rule
[00:38:09] <[JPN]Marca> "no one"
[00:38:19] <[JPN]Marca> if you're too lazy to check on the extended rules at least once
[00:38:26] <[JPN]Marca> and the fact that you've been here for such a long time
[00:38:29] <[JPN]Marca> then that's your problem
[00:39:14] <Elsify> Alright, I aint allowed to store money with someone to avoid for example medical fees
[00:39:15] <Elsify> right?
[00:40:54] <[JPN]Marca> read the thread..
[00:41:19] <Elsify> Marca am not talking to you as the admin banned me only
[00:41:25] <Elsify> take it as a friend's discussion
[00:41:37] <Elsify> You still can help me by understanding/believing me
[00:41:56] <Elsify> I did that to avoid this bug
[00:42:02] <Elsify> do you believe me or no?
[00:42:18] <[JPN]Marca> no since you didn't even bother asking admins about it
[00:42:39] <Elsify> about what? about what?
[00:43:37] <[JPN]Marca> storing your money on other accounts
[00:44:23] <Elsify> I have/had been here for almost 2 years, never seen someone getting banned for "Storing money blablabla"
[00:44:40] <Elsify> so I didn't even mind
[00:44:42] <Elsify> to ask an admin
[00:44:51] <Elsify> like it didn't come in my mind to do it
[00:44:54] <Elsify> why would I?
[00:45:17] <Elsify> +I didn't do it to avoid paying medical fees or anything
[00:45:26] <Elsify> I did to avoid the negative bug
[00:55:28] <Elsify> [JPN]Marca