Sunday, March 02, 2014 1:52 PM - |JRS| UsaraDark: Not sure if you already know this but if you pick up a gun with a magneto stick it will cause some script errors 1:52 PM - |JRS| UsaraDark: It will also crash the server at will... 1:52 PM - Jamie: First I've heard it crashed the server Monday, March 03, 2014 9:26 PM - |JRS| UsaraDark: Couldn't read type 19Couldn't read type 33 [ERROR] lua/includes/modules/net.lua:92: table index is nil 1. ReadType - lua/includes/modules/net.lua:92 2. ReadType - lua/includes/modules/net.lua:90 3. ReadType - lua/includes/modules/net.lua:90 4. ReadTable - lua/includes/modules/net.lua:90 5. func - addons/damagelog/lua/cl_tabs/old_logs.lua:239 6. unknown - lua/includes/modules/net.lua:31 9:47 PM - Jamie: http://puu.sh/7idyb.png Monday, March 03, 2014 9:47 PM - Your chat with |JRS| UsaraDark is now a multi-user chat. 9:48 PM - Remix the Angry Sloth entered chat. 9:48 PM - Remix the Angry Sloth: Sup 9:48 PM - Remix the Angry Sloth: Hello?? 9:48 PM - Jamie: I have information regarding the lag 9:48 PM - Jamie: I want to get the others into here first 9:48 PM - Remix the Angry Sloth: ok 9:48 PM - |JRS| UsaraDark: So, let me get it straight, the server provider needs to do an update 9:49 PM - |JRS| UsaraDark: But can't and keeps pushing to a further date 9:49 PM - Jamie: one sec 9:49 PM - |JRS| TheAlzonian entered chat. 9:49 PM - Jamie: http://puu.sh/7idyb.png 9:49 PM - |JRS| TheAlzonian: Hu;;p 9:49 PM - Jamie: Alright. Click that. It's regarding the lag info 9:49 PM - |JRS| TheAlzonian: I saw the link 9:49 PM - Jamie: And that sums it up Usara 9:49 PM - |JRS| TheAlzonian: Drat 9:49 PM - Jamie: It's been impacting the server for about two weeks now and it's dropped 9 percentiles since then 9:50 PM - |JRS| TheAlzonian: And it'll be a while before things get fixed? 9:52 PM - Jamie: So. You guys have suggestions? I'm planning on waiting it out 9:52 PM - Jamie: But jeff wants a switch to a new provider 9:52 PM - |JRS| TheAlzonian: I think we oughta wait. We can deal with a teensy bit of lag, we're the sexiest server around 9:53 PM - Jamie: Let's not overestimate ourselves. We have dropped from 89% to 80% in a week and a half 9:53 PM - Remix the Angry Sloth: New provider here we go 9:53 PM - Remix the Angry Sloth: (What i think) 9:54 PM - Jamie: Keep in mind, new provider means we gotta get a new IP and tell EVERYBODY about it 9:54 PM - |JRS| TheAlzonian: Maybe if you mention to the current provdiers that we may have to switch due to the problems this is causing, the issue will be resolved faster 9:54 PM - Remix the Angry Sloth: Put as a event 9:54 PM - Remix the Angry Sloth: And tell every one wene it will change and advert the new ip 9:54 PM - Remix the Angry Sloth: And i will tell every one on my friends list 9:55 PM - Jamie: And do you personally think that the lag is driving people away? Or do you think it's due to other reasons 9:55 PM - |JRS| TheAlzonian: I think it may be other things 9:55 PM - Jamie: What do you think it is 9:55 PM - |JRS| UsaraDark: Both 9:56 PM - Jamie: "both" doesn't help. 9:56 PM - |JRS| TheAlzonian: We're not particularly populated until a lot later. Some people might try to get on, see nobody, and not check back 9:56 PM - Jamie: It could be that. I also have noticed dips in the server's population when I'm not on alot. 9:56 PM - Jamie: And lately I've been taking a lot of break time 9:56 PM - |JRS| UsaraDark: Now that you mention it, the server is really populated at times 9:56 PM - |JRS| UsaraDark: but that shouldn't matter at times 9:57 PM - Jamie: The server's mainly populated at this time of day. ANd if you notice it's a lot of regular players, especially staff 9:57 PM - Remix the Angry Sloth: ^^ 9:58 PM - |JRS| TheAlzonian: Yeah 9:59 PM - |JRS| TheAlzonian: We just don't have a really consistent population on the server. It's abandoned then it's jam packed 9:59 PM - Remix the Angry Sloth: The server becomes populated because wene one friend gets on he invites all his friends 9:59 PM - Remix the Angry Sloth: And at this time people get home from work or get there home work done 10:00 PM - |JRS| UsaraDark: Which is the time newcomers might come on 10:00 PM - |JRS| UsaraDark: but like i said, it shouldn't matter too much 10:00 PM - Jamie: It does though 10:01 PM - Jamie: The more overall player time on the srever, the higher the percentile 10:01 PM - Jamie: invited fishy by accident but whatever 10:02 PM - Remix the Angry Sloth: Jamie to be honest it use to be people were on from wene i started it up or some one else did to like 3 am 10:02 PM - Mr. Jeffrey entered chat. 10:02 PM - Mr. Fishyyy entered chat. 10:02 PM - Remix the Angry Sloth: "The good old days" 10:03 PM - Jamie: Didn't mean to invite you fishy, but you're welcome to participate 10:03 PM - Mr. Fishyyy: hello? 10:03 PM - Jamie: We're talking about the lag and population decrease 10:03 PM - |JRS| UsaraDark: Lag = >population 10:04 PM - |JRS| UsaraDark: so that must mean 10:04 PM - Jamie: well... the first 6 months the server was up we were only at about 75% popularity 10:04 PM - |JRS| UsaraDark: < lag = < population 10:05 PM - Jamie: we're at 80% now. Which is 9% less than it was a week and a half ago 10:05 PM - Jamie: just repeating that forjust entered staff 10:05 PM - Mr. Fishyyy: I feel as if the relationship between all the people who currently play might decrease the new population 10:05 PM - |JRS| UsaraDark: A week ago, isn't that a bit short to go off of 10:05 PM - Jamie: Well. It's a HUGE decrease in a small amount of time 10:06 PM - Remix the Angry Sloth: Well it is coming close to the end of the school year 10:06 PM - Jamie: So finals, yeah 10:06 PM - Remix the Angry Sloth: And most states of tests you have to pass to gtfo 10:06 PM - |JRS| TheAlzonian: hm 10:07 PM - Jamie: Panda can't join. 10:07 PM - Señor Punz0r entered chat. 10:07 PM - Señor Punz0r: Oi 10:08 PM - Remix the Angry Sloth: o 10:08 PM - Remix the Angry Sloth: o/ 10:09 PM - Jamie: Punz0r, the server's population has decreased 9 percentiles in only a week and a half. The server's experienced lag for about 2-3 weeks now. The issue is pending resolve, see here: http://puu.sh/7idyb.png but we're talking about whether the decrease in population is due to latency or other factors. If so, are the factors due to what the server has/doesn't have/has broken with, or is factors outside of our control 10:09 PM - Jamie: Just an update 10:09 PM - Señor Punz0r: Oh okay 10:10 PM - Jamie: Everyone on right now either have a week of play time on the server or are staff 10:10 PM - Remix the Angry Sloth: I am thinking we start the server early on the week ends and try and get more new people to join 10:10 PM - |JRS| TheAlzonian: I agree with Remix 10:11 PM - Remix the Angry Sloth: server use to run almost 24/7 10:11 PM - Remix the Angry Sloth: and this summer could be a big boom for us if we capitalize on it 10:11 PM - Señor Punz0r: I mean as much as the latency problems come, there are also other factors to it. Like how quickly the server pops up on the menu in gmod. 10:12 PM - Jamie: The server ranking has to do with a number of factors 10:13 PM - Jamie: It doesn't highlight full/empty servers, and organizes the ranking based on ping, player count to max player ratio 10:13 PM - Jamie: and probably other things 10:13 PM - Jamie: Lots of players only join maps they like, like css maps or 67thway 10:13 PM - Jamie: oh and people complaining about lag doesn't help. fucking assman 10:13 PM - Remix the Angry Sloth: Well have a almost 24/7 server will increase are ranking 10:14 PM - Mr. Jeffrey: the server is only up in the evening tho 10:14 PM - Remix the Angry Sloth: jeff you don't recall the good old days 10:14 PM - Mr. Jeffrey: i try to think the best day have not arrived 10:15 PM - Mr. Jeffrey: days 10:15 PM - Mr. Jeffrey: but yes i remember 10:15 PM - Jamie: Jeff, you did join in the summer. And we're right now in one of the most stressful times of the year for students 10:15 PM - Remix the Angry Sloth: Yea well this summer i am going to go ham on the server and try geting it back to being early in the day to early in the morning 10:15 PM - Jamie: Although..... lots of servers have HIGH numbers of overall players. But we have to take into account servers that favor little kids. 10:16 PM - Jamie: And the community we have is kind of... anti immature kids 10:16 PM - Remix the Angry Sloth: I do my best to keep em 10:16 PM - |JRS| UsaraDark disconnected. 10:16 PM - Jamie: Not just the hostility towards "Squeakers" but also the content that we have. 10:17 PM - Remix the Angry Sloth: true 10:17 PM - Jamie: Most of our content is appealing towards "dirty" or "grungy" players. Not arcade. We don't have trails and rediculously cartoon-y character models 10:18 PM - Remix the Angry Sloth: yea 10:19 PM - Remix the Angry Sloth: Thos things wouldint hurt ot have but i just hate the idea of trails 10:19 PM - Remix the Angry Sloth: I mean o this guy was just knifed follows the trail back to the person we got rdm vs commen sense 10:19 PM - Jamie: Adding those things won't happen 10:19 PM - Remix the Angry Sloth: Good 10:19 PM - Jamie: I'm just talking about reasons why the server might be losing player count 10:22 PM - Remix the Angry Sloth: I think we need some thing to lore more people in. then we grab them more nice custom items and good staff :D 10:22 PM - Jamie: That's the opposite of how the server became so popular 10:22 PM - Jamie: People come in for the custom shit and stay for the community 10:22 PM - Remix the Angry Sloth: yea 10:23 PM - Remix the Angry Sloth: I came for the community 10:23 PM - Remix the Angry Sloth: And so did alot of the old people... 10:23 PM - Remix the Angry Sloth: Like jeffrey was the one that won me over 10:24 PM - Remix the Angry Sloth: He cared about the server (I came from 420 never heard of such things before) 10:25 PM - Jamie: About the lag/switching providers: This hosting provider is the best one I've had so far. And it's the third one I tried 10:25 PM - Remix the Angry Sloth: damn 10:25 PM - Jamie: Switching a hosting provider can be expensive (it's about $20 for a new service) and it's difficult to merge everyone over to a new IP 10:26 PM - Remix the Angry Sloth: How about we put it to a vote on the forums? 10:26 PM - Jamie: I feel like the average person isn't able to make this decision 10:26 PM - Mr. Jeffrey left chat. 10:26 PM - Jamie: This is something that is extremly important. If we take a vote it should be with staff. And ones who are active on the server still 10:27 PM - Remix the Angry Sloth: Lets do it then 10:27 PM - Remix the Angry Sloth: Time for me to make another meeting? 10:27 PM - Jamie: I do'nt know