[0:45:40] zepect: because at that time, it used another list server software that had no ban function
[0:45:44] zepect: they would
[10:39:10] Jorie // Vegito: no they wouldn't
[10:39:15] Jorie // Vegito: in fact only 1 person *ever* was banned I believe
[10:39:17] Jorie // Vegito: which was Orbitz
[10:39:56] Jorie // Vegito: if this is true it really was a dick move
[10:40:46] Jorie // Vegito: you can't possibly defend such an action, banning someone from hosting cause of his server attracting many players
[10:41:17] vivand0: moby dick
[10:41:34] Jorie // Vegito: charles dickens
[10:41:43] Jorie // Vegito: (facepalm) :D
[10:42:02] vivand0: (tmi)
[10:47:58] lithium.jj2: I fail to see how would Electron's server attract more players than the Bash one
[11:22:06] Sir Ementaler: [0:28] Jorie // Vegito: 

<<< very professional cooba & djazz thereWhat does cooba have to do with anything.
[11:36:48] Jorie // Vegito: the chat :D
[11:37:15] Jorie // Vegito: besides I assume this was planned
[11:43:59] Sir Ementaler: Well it says
[0:18] Ensar Seker™: 

<<< [18:43:59] Cerebro: what you did was not nice
[18:44:06]      zepect oyuna bağlandı
[18:44:06] cooba[si]: what did djazz do
[11:46:03] Jorie // Vegito: yes, without anyone actually mentioning what happened -> thus I can safely assume some, including zepect, knew what was going on then
[11:46:27] Jorie // Vegito: and with that I assume cooba as well, cause he's only making fun of electron after
[11:47:04] Sir Ementaler: "djazz what you did was not nice"
"what did djazz do"
I see no logical inconsequence here.
[11:47:07 | Edited 11:47:32] Jorie // Vegito: besides I only said I don't think this was a good way to react
[11:47:09] Jorie // Vegito: and nothing else
[11:48:23] Sir Ementaler: cooba *always* makes fun of Electron and he's not the only one.
[11:48:47] Jorie // Vegito: I'm not active so I only write my opinion based on that chatlog
[11:49:29] Jorie // Vegito: and when something like that is done I don't think anyone should then provoke/bully/whatever after
[11:50:03] Sir Ementaler: They didn't even know what happened.
[11:50:17] Jorie // Vegito: and you base that on?
[11:51:00] Sir Ementaler: The fact that they were playing at the AB rather than sitting and refreshing the SGIP.
[11:51:00] Jorie // Vegito: and that *still* doesn't require me to take back my words -> I just don't think it was a nice reaction of them
[11:51:30] Jorie // Vegito: and who says that they didn't actually first talk about banning electron from the listserver? rather than it being DJazz's solo action?
[11:51:46] Jorie // Vegito: if it'd be me being an admin I'd not just take that responsibility myself
[11:52:00] Jorie // Vegito: I'd definitely first ask if I should
[11:52:30] Jorie // Vegito: and like I said, I just assume so and it's just my personal opinion
[11:52:57] Sir Ementaler: Because it looks like Djazz's voluntary action. I can't see anything that would suggest otherwise.
[11:52:59] Jorie // Vegito: I don't think writing I don't think of it as a right reaction is bad
[11:53:14] Jorie // Vegito: I can, and that's where we differ then
[11:53:51] Jorie // Vegito: I can but that's only based on my own assumption actually
[11:54:07] Jorie // Vegito: an opinion, something I feel may have happened
[11:56:46] Sir Ementaler: Personally, I think I'd be informed about it myself if that happened. But you're naturally entitled to your own opinion and I'm not trying to take that away from you, just wanted to learn the reasoning behind it.
[11:57:08] Jorie // Vegito: well, hopefully I clarified that
[11:57:20] Jorie // Vegito: I didn't take any actions on an opinion either for that matter
[11:57:27] Jorie // Vegito: it's just how I felt/assumed it went
[11:57:39] Jorie // Vegito: yet that doesn't change the fact this was just horribly wrong to do anyway
[11:57:58] Jorie // Vegito: even it was an action sololy done by DJazz
[12:00:23 | Edited 12:02:25] Sir Ementaler: I couldn't treat seriously somebody who joins a server to threaten others with reporting them for their deeds.
[12:01:08] Jorie // Vegito: which I think was after he had been blocked from the serverlist already
[12:01:18] Jorie // Vegito: I'd be pissed off too
[12:01:21] Jorie // Vegito: if I'd be banned from hosting
[12:02:36] Lithium Sedai: but if you're Electron, you'd be pissed off by anything :P
[12:02:54] Jorie // Vegito: :D
[12:03:10] Jorie // Vegito: that doesn't give anybody the right to ban him from a serverlist like that
[12:03:18] Lithium Sedai: that's true, yes
[12:03:37] Jorie // Vegito: I understand his reporting to nimrod
[12:04:15] Jorie // Vegito: I wonder one thing though
[12:04:34] Jorie // Vegito: if somebody bans someone from list2, does that also affect list1? is that synched?
[12:04:52] Sir Ementaler: no
[12:05:08] Jorie // Vegito: I don't quite get how his server did not show up anymore then
[12:05:15] Jorie // Vegito: list1 should be the default one anyone connects to I think
[12:05:48] Ensar Seker™: well, I have 2 puke servers hosted. One on list1 and the other one on list2
[12:05:52] Ensar Seker™: I don't know how and why
[12:07:32] Jorie // Vegito: from what I understood back when EvilD hosted list2, list2 is merely a backup listserver and not the default one a player usually connects to
[12:07:35] Sir Ementaler: I'm just saying that if people on the server didn't know anything about what happened and suddenly Electron joins and tells Djazz he's going to report him, it's only natural to make fun of it. Especially on the AB which besides being a huge battle / CTF server is also secretly a ripost competition.
[12:08:30] Jorie // Vegito: yes cause there are a whole bunch of older/smarter players around then
[12:08:34] Jorie // Vegito: instead of the usual amount of kids
[12:09:18] Jorie // Vegito: but yes, that might be the reason why they reacted this way too
[12:10:03] Ensar Seker™: nobody should take cooba seriously anyway
[12:10:15] Sir Ementaler: I don't think anybody knows the rule behind connecting to list servers.
[12:10:44] Jorie // Vegito: well I don't, but I never cared to find out either cause nothing ever was wrong with it (angel)
[12:11:16] Sir Ementaler: According to my knowledge you should by default connect to the list that's listed as list 0 in your register.
[12:11:32] Jorie // Vegito: yes, which should by default be list1
[12:11:36] Sir Ementaler: And probably to further list indices if that doesn't respond quickly enough.
[12:11:37] Ensar Seker™: some people have blank fields at the register
[12:11:47] Jorie // Vegito: cause that one is Nimrod's, the default Jazz2 one
[12:12:09] Ensar Seker™: I changed the hosts from the register and entered something randomly
[12:12:13] Ensar Seker™: and I could still host
[12:12:18] Jorie // Vegito: I am not even sure what's in my registry
[12:12:19] Jorie // Vegito: lets see
[12:12:35] Jorie // Vegito: yea, cause jazz2 will still search to make a connection to the default jazz2 listserver I think
[12:13:35] Ensar Seker™: and it's also written in plus.dll
[12:13:42] Ensar Seker™: list1.digiex.net and list2.digiex.net
[12:13:48] Ensar Seker™: I don't know if that has anything to do with it
[12:14:23] Jorie // Vegito: you could find the listserver in current user -> software -> epic megagames right?
[12:14:34] Jorie // Vegito: I forgot, last time I checked is well over 5 years ago
[12:15:07] Ensar Seker™: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE
[12:15:21] Ensar Seker™: software > epic megagames
[12:15:26] Jorie // Vegito: I tried looking there too
[12:15:31] Jorie // Vegito: its just I dont have any registry file there :D
[12:15:36] Ensar Seker™: http://puu.sh/85xJB.png
[12:15:44] Jorie // Vegito: I mean, not for Epic
[12:15:56] Sir Ementaler: I don't have Epic Megagames there either. ;_;
[12:16:04] Ensar Seker™: lolz
[12:16:10] Jorie // Vegito: one does not simply change the listserver (y)
[12:26:16] Ensar Seker™: the bash server is on the second page of the list
[12:26:21] Ensar Seker™: let's ban everyone that's on the first page
[12:28:25 | Edited 12:28:34] Sir Ementaler: I'm not a netcode expert but it seems to me that list2 is the default for JJ2+ and was before our team laid our hands on it already.
[12:29:07] Jorie // Vegito: hah, wtf :D