<18:18:13> "HillbrookGiant": If i may ask a few questions <18:18:27> "Matt": Yes? <18:18:56> "HillbrookGiant": You responded to my post about the subscription changed and I was slightly confused by your response <18:19:06> "Matt": Sorry its just not happening <18:19:19> "HillbrookGiant": I am confused by your reasoning however <18:19:28> "Matt": There's no reasoning its set in stone <18:19:36> "Matt": You missed out on the sale, its bad luck <18:19:40> "HillbrookGiant": well im going off the rules harry wrote in the section <18:20:13> "Matt": You arent requesting a subscription change, youre asking to have 2 months added onto your existing subscription because you didnt have to oppurtunity to use the sale <18:20:31> "HillbrookGiant": ah no i am requesting a subcription change <18:20:38> "HillbrookGiant": Based on your own rules <18:20:43> "HillbrookGiant": as I expalined to resquE <18:20:56> "HillbrookGiant": and besides it clearly says on harry or ERdarkman may process requests in this section <18:21:10> "Matt": subscription changes are a priviledge not a right <18:21:12> "HillbrookGiant": it fills all the criteria that he stated <18:21:21> "HillbrookGiant": I am not saying i have to have one <18:21:28> "HillbrookGiant": I am saying you dont have the right to deny it <18:21:30> "Matt": once again i will state that you are not asking for a subscription change but an upgrade <18:21:31> "HillbrookGiant": its up to them not you <18:21:37> "HillbrookGiant": it is a change however <18:21:44> "Matt": to a 3 month subscription <18:21:47> "HillbrookGiant": I am changing from something of equal value to something of equal value <18:21:57> "Matt": you bought the subscription before the sale was active <18:23:05> "HillbrookGiant": and people in the past have swapped from one hack to a new hack after it has been released <18:23:09> "HillbrookGiant": so they bought it before it was active too <18:23:26> "Matt": yes and they are fine in doing so because it is a completely different cheat <18:23:44> "HillbrookGiant": that hardly seems fair because this cheat encompasses all of them <18:23:58> "Matt": exactly. its the advantage pack including all of our cheat <18:24:03> "Matt": cheats* <18:24:11> "HillbrookGiant": all im saying is why did you cancel it when you dont ahve the right too <18:24:11> "Matt": therefore a subscription change is impossible. <18:24:17> "HillbrookGiant": you should leave it open to the admins at least <18:24:21> "HillbrookGiant": not deny me prematurely <18:24:30> "Matt": you are not abiding by the rules of the section <18:26:51> "HillbrookGiant": Yes I am <18:26:55> "HillbrookGiant": that is purely your interpretation <18:27:00> "Matt": No it is not sir <18:27:07> "HillbrookGiant": I have two other moderators who have told me to make a post <18:27:16> "HillbrookGiant": thus suggesting i dont break the rules of the section <18:28:04> "Matt": Once again, you arent asking for a subscription change <18:28:24> "HillbrookGiant": Once again that is merely your interpretation it is for the admins to decide <18:29:44> "Matt": The admins do not have time to moderate the section; the rules do not apply to you as you are not asking for a subscription change. you want an upgrade to a 3 month subscription because you had the bad luck of purchasing a sub before the sale was accounced. <18:30:21> "HillbrookGiant": The admins clearly said it is up to them to moderate that section, I think they would have said that only if they had the time <18:30:34> "HillbrookGiant": I am asking for a subscription change you just believe I am not based on your own interpretation <18:30:45> "Matt": No you arent based off facts <18:31:02> "HillbrookGiant": Based off facts of what? <18:31:20> "Matt": That you want more time on your subcription based off bad timing on a purchase. <18:31:51> "HillbrookGiant": It is not based off bad timing I want to swap my subscription plan all together <18:32:28> "Matt": If you went to your local general store and got a soda, but came back the next day and saw the sodas were now 50% off could you bring back your soda and ask for more for free because you missed out on the sale? <18:32:53> "Matt": You arent swapping a subscription plan you want the 3 month instead of the 1 month <18:32:55> "HillbrookGiant": I have actually done a very similar thing based on a subscription at a movie store but thats beside the point <18:33:22> "HillbrookGiant": It is clearly stated that admins are to decide all I want is for you to reopen the post, i dont want you to approve it <18:33:36> "Matt": I'll have the admin talk to you about it when he gets on <18:33:54> "HillbrookGiant": I have already sent both of them pms <18:33:58> "HillbrookGiant": I just want you to reopen it <18:34:05> "HillbrookGiant": You had no right closing it in the first place <18:42:34> "HillbrookGiant": So are you going to reopen it? <18:42:39> "HillbrookGiant": Or are you going to remain pigheaded? <18:43:10> "Matt": Excuse me? <18:43:17> "Matt": I do not expect to see anymore insults <18:43:36> "Matt": I am trying to explain to you how a subscription change does not apply to you <18:44:25> "HillbrookGiant": Pigheaded is not an insult it is a comment of the responses to which I am receiving <18:44:46> "HillbrookGiant": I am trying to explain to you that by the rules of your sites own admins you are not allowed to moderate that section <18:45:37> "Matt": It is up to darkman and harry to approve and do the backpanel work to change subscriptions <18:46:29> "Matt": I am going to tell you again, you are not asking for a subscription change, you are asking for a 3 month advantage pack instead of the q month because you missed out on the sale. <18:46:55> "HillbrookGiant": and I am going to tell you agian that is your interpretation <18:47:03> "HillbrookGiant": I will go along with exactly what harry and ER say <18:47:07> "HillbrookGiant": I do not mind if they say no <18:47:15> "HillbrookGiant": the problem I have is people doing things they shouldnt <18:47:23> "HillbrookGiant": and you closing my thread is exactly that <18:47:25> "Matt": I'm doing exactly what I should be. <18:47:34> "Matt": I'm sorry if you don't understand that. <18:47:38> "HillbrookGiant": requires Admin approval before it is granted. For this reason, your request can only be processed when an Administrator (ERDarkMan or Harry) is online <18:47:43> "HillbrookGiant": emphasis on processed <18:47:53> "HillbrookGiant": Im sorry if you dont read your own rules <18:48:02> "Matt": How about you take a look at the name of the section <18:48:08> "Matt": "Subscription change requests" <18:48:31> "Matt": This is for cheat users who are having issues with their cheat and would like a different one instead <18:48:31> "HillbrookGiant": it at no point says that changing time does not count as a subscription change <18:48:37> "HillbrookGiant": it does not say that <18:48:41> "HillbrookGiant": that is your interpretation <18:48:48> "HillbrookGiant": if harry says that thats what it is about then taht is fine <18:49:07> "HillbrookGiant": but until then this is based purely off what you are saying <18:49:10> "Matt": You must have reasonable grounds for requesting a change; for example, we will not change you just because you lose interest in your game or you 'fancy a change'. <18:49:19> "Matt": Its for different games sir <18:49:56> "Matt": If an admin wants to be kind and grant you an extra 2 months off their own kindness and understanding, that's on them, im just going by the rules. <18:50:37> "HillbrookGiant": I have not lost interest in my game nor do I fancy a change <18:50:41> "HillbrookGiant": So that sentence does not apply <18:50:50> "Matt": The reason your thread was closed in the first place was because it simply doesnt belong there <18:50:53> "HillbrookGiant": and If they want to refuse the change thats fine it is their decision <18:51:02> "HillbrookGiant": It "does not belong there" because of your belief <18:51:03> "Matt": something like this belongs in a personal message explaining the situation <18:51:05> "HillbrookGiant": not because of any proof <18:51:31> "HillbrookGiant": Until someone that the message was addressed to comments on it you should not have interferred <18:51:33> "HillbrookGiant": It was not your place <18:51:58> "Matt": Sir I have worked for virtual advantage for 13 months I know my place and my responsibilities <18:52:34> "HillbrookGiant": Well that is a shame because you have missed them by quite a a degree <18:52:36> "Matt": You are taking this far to personal, like I have something against you getting an upgraded subscription <18:52:57> "Matt": Im doing my job and if you cant see that that is a fault on your end <18:53:07> "HillbrookGiant": Ah so we get to the crux of the matter <18:53:17> "HillbrookGiant": This is your belief that I am at fault <18:53:37> "HillbrookGiant": despite you being the one solely causing the argument to arise by closing my post in a section your own rules say you should not process <18:53:52> "Matt": Im not arguing with you sir sorry <18:54:02> "Matt": You sent a PM to an admin right? <18:54:43> "Matt": If not do so and explain to them the situation <18:54:55> "Matt": im sure theyll take care of it <18:55:04> "HillbrookGiant": I already have and by your own forum directions that was the section to make a post as well as pm them <18:55:17> "HillbrookGiant": and you are quite clearly arguing with me anyone can see that <18:55:25> "HillbrookGiant": I enjoy a good argument it passes the time <18:55:37> "Matt": Wonderful. Anything else you need help with? <18:57:41> "HillbrookGiant": If you call this help I dont think the support section is for you <18:57:59> "Matt": Alright then, anything else you need clarification on? <18:58:35> "HillbrookGiant": Ive had just about enough clarified to me