Was having a chat to Pillvon on some numbers that I'd expect him to be pulling and using my shammy alt as a guide for him. Just thought the convo was entertaining and worth a laugh. [22:17:19] [W From] [Pillvon]: u guys r good, i hope to geta second chance [22:17:29] [W To] [Pillvon]: 313k on pride [22:17:45] [W To] [Pillvon]: the pride kill isn't a fair comparison cause I was padding the adds there [22:17:52] [W From] [Pillvon]: yeah but shammy is addy [22:17:54] [W To] [Pillvon]: and there's a few less mechanics on normal to deal with that reduce damage [22:18:11] [W To] [Pillvon]: but protectors and nourashen are reasonable examples [22:18:24] [W To] [Pillvon]: 261 on galakras [22:18:26] [W From] [Pillvon]: well im a smash your numbers next week ;) [22:18:41] [W To] [Pillvon]: 248 on jug [22:18:44] [W From] [Pillvon]: u leave me downstairs on gal will beat that [22:18:52] [W To] [Pillvon]: 331 on dark shaman [22:19:11] [W From] [Pillvon]: shaman is weird, u guys do it so diff [22:19:18] [W To] [Pillvon]: 168 on nazgrim ... which was low [22:19:50] [W To] [Pillvon]: 208 on malk cause I died to something stupid .. but 240ish is about what I'd normally get on that fight [22:20:16] [W To] [Pillvon]: 162 on spoils... which is low because of the terrabad tank opening boxes haha [22:20:35] [W To] [Pillvon]: thok is only 181 .. but.. caster.. interupts... eww [22:20:35] [W From] [Pillvon]: apossed to what u think i'd prefer to do half the deeps i should, to ensure the adds that need to die die. i couldn't care less about the stats on that fight [22:21:04] [W To] [Pillvon]: 208 on siegecrafter [22:21:08] [W From] [Pillvon]: general adds need to die [22:21:09] [W To] [Pillvon]: and that's where I bailed on the run [22:21:22] [W From] [Pillvon]: thats my only thought on nazgrim [22:21:25] [W To] [Pillvon]: yea... that's probably why my numbers were a bit low.. I got fixated on a few times. [22:21:45] [W To] [Pillvon]: I'm not too concerned about specific numbers on each fight... but those numbers should give a rough guide. [22:23:15] [W From] [Pillvon]: im apally, i am not a hunter that stands back n does nothing but attack, i have a responsibility to save theraid [22:23:34] [W From] [Pillvon]: people don't get that [22:24:51] [W From] [Pillvon]: i should have the lowest dps by far!. because i am the one to make or break wipes n clears [22:25:06] [W To] [Pillvon]: ... what the fuck are you talking about? [22:25:19] [W From] [Pillvon]: what! [22:25:37] [W From] [Pillvon]: do u have a pally toon [22:25:57] [W To] [Pillvon]: yes. [22:26:03] [W From] [Pillvon]: spec? [22:27:31] [W From] [Pillvon]: lol thought we were having a convo, 30 mins later u say wtf lol [22:27:51] [W To] [Pillvon]: middle of doing challange modes. so a little busy haha [22:27:57] [W From] [Pillvon]: ok night [22:28:00] [W To] [Pillvon]: but... no. You are not the one the raid pivots on [22:28:20] [W To] [Pillvon]: if anything.. it's tanks and healers.. but realistically... it doesn't pivot on anyone [22:28:28] [W To] [Pillvon]: it requires all 25 people to do all the things they need to do [22:28:57] [W From] [Pillvon]: i never mentioned pivots...... i said pallies save raids. no other class can do what we do. was my point [22:29:07] [W From] [90:Taccopie]: Casting [Resurrection] on You! [22:29:11] [W To] [Pillvon]: as a ret pally..... you pretty much just have devo aura... dps... and that's it. Everything else is the same as what everyone else has to worry about. [22:29:17] [W From] [90:Taccopie]: Successfully resurrected You! [22:30:57] [W From] [Pillvon]: ok i have a devo which everyone needs, i can lay onhands u, saves anyone, i can bop u saves u, i can sacrifice u saving u, i can cleanse u saving u, i can interrupt and stun u.. oh thats all before my attacks.. (attacks like the other kinds of toons, c [22:31:56] [W From] [Pillvon]: people don't appreciate the fact that a pally although the low dps, r the saviours of raids.. im not sure y [22:32:18] [W From] [90:Taccopie]: Casting [Resurrection] on You! [22:32:28] [W From] [90:Taccopie]: Successfully resurrected You! [22:32:35] [W To] [Pillvon]: Ok... well.. I'd sugest looking at all the ret pallies that do all that AND good dps. [22:32:43] [W To] [Pillvon]: and get some tips off them. [22:33:39] [W From] [Pillvon]: ok well warlocks die, dks oh yes die, shamans lol die, warriors r their any die. mages die, hunters die first, priests r pretty good, druids die, rogue r dead.. [22:34:47] [W From] [Pillvon]: so ur saying i have bad dps? do u realise how many times i saved your group in raids with my abilities? dps shouldn't count, but i still outdo em [22:41:23] [W From] [Pillvon]: ty for the invite and the time in your guild, u are all v nice people. i just can't keep up with the 4 day raid times [22:48:08] [W To] [90:Shibbs]: [Symbiosis] cast on You! [22:51:55] [W From] [Pillvon]: im sorry