(9:58:07 PM) Captain-Lightning: As far as the story goes
(9:58:13 PM) Roulette1134: he probably needed to warm them up anyway
(9:58:15 PM) Roulette1134: ...
(9:58:17 PM) Fe_Lopez: We don't have one.
(9:58:25 PM) Captain-Lightning: I think we need more of a motivation behind why a person would be derping around interacting with the world
(9:58:27 PM) Roulette1134: can we make one?
(9:58:30 PM) Captain-Lightning: We never did decide that
(9:58:36 PM) Roulette1134: i think
(9:58:47 PM) Roulette1134: all worlds should have been chucked together, sorter
(9:59:03 PM) Roulette1134: and the landscape should represent this 'chucking'
(9:59:13 PM) Fe_Lopez: OK
(9:59:18 PM) Captain-Lightning: Christ
(9:59:33 PM) Captain-Lightning: I'm cold.
(9:59:37 PM) Roulette1134: we are too
(9:59:38 PM) Roulette1134: it sucks
(9:59:40 PM) Fe_Lopez: We need a way to integrate the story better with the RP in general on the site.
(9:59:42 PM) Fe_Lopez: Ideas?
(9:59:54 PM) Roulette1134: i suppose we sort of have to.
(9:59:58 PM) Roulette1134: um
(10:00:13 PM) Fe_Lopez: We need a way to have a story that everyone knows and that everyone knows /about/.
(10:00:20 PM) Roulette1134: can we have a page that sort of gives the history of the world?
(10:00:26 PM) Roulette1134: or how it came to be?
(10:00:34 PM) Captain-Lightning: Right, motivation
(10:00:40 PM) Fe_Lopez: Yes, but if we post a fuckton of text, no one will read it.
(10:00:49 PM) Roulette1134: make pretty pictures?
(10:00:49 PM) Fe_Lopez: So.
(10:00:49 PM) Captain-Lightning: As in
(10:01:00 PM) Captain-Lightning: You go to a foreplay site to get your freak on with dem peeps
(10:01:27 PM) Captain-Lightning: But why users should be RP'ing and what they should be RP'ing about is very vague atm
(10:01:32 PM) Fe_Lopez: I was thinking the best way would be to integrate the story itself with the RP.
(10:01:39 PM) Roulette1134: i dunno
(10:01:42 PM) Captain-Lightning: I mean
(10:01:43 PM) Roulette1134: that seems confusing?
(10:01:48 PM) Fe_Lopez: yes it does.
(10:01:56 PM) Fe_Lopez: It also seems like we need more people.
(10:02:06 PM) Roulette1134: i think that if someone is rping then they should know what they're doing already...
(10:02:07 PM) Roulette1134: more or less
(10:02:30 PM) Fe_Lopez: Yes, but we're not really worried about that.
(10:02:42 PM) Captain-Lightning: Just as an example, we need something along the lines of "You are a revolutionary, topple the government". And then people would RP specifically about being hipster che guevaras
(10:02:48 PM) Captain-Lightning: I wish that would sound less dumb
(10:02:50 PM) Captain-Lightning: But fuck I'm cold
(10:03:06 PM) Fe_Lopez: More worried about whether people know everything about the world.
(10:03:14 PM) Roulette1134: but isn't the initial post in each thread supposed to provide that spark?
(10:03:20 PM) Fe_Lopez: So we need to write a massive story, then compress it into a couple paragraphs.
(10:03:25 PM) Roulette1134: and why do they in the rp section?
(10:03:33 PM) Fe_Lopez: And provide the original text.
(10:03:35 PM) Roulette1134: couldn't we have a different world?
(10:03:38 PM) Roulette1134: or better
(10:03:45 PM) Captain-Lightning: As is, RP seems pretty unfocused. Which is okay because thus far we've treated the forum as non-canon
(10:03:55 PM) Roulette1134: how do we know /everything/ about the world?
(10:04:01 PM) Captain-Lightning: But there needs to be more of a singular focus behind -why- they are RP'ing
(10:04:02 PM) Fe_Lopez: Because we created it.
(10:04:18 PM) Roulette1134: but
(10:04:35 PM) Roulette1134: the purpose of rp is sort of creative character building
(10:04:40 PM) Fe_Lopez: Yes.
(10:04:43 PM) Fe_Lopez: But
(10:04:52 PM) Roulette1134: only the game needs a specific structure, the rp world doesn't really
(10:05:01 PM) Fe_Lopez: Sure we do.
(10:05:18 PM) Fe_Lopez: It's more of a backstory, not a structure
(10:05:25 PM) Roulette1134: well, that's different
(10:05:40 PM) Roulette1134: and i'm not entirely sure how you want to go about achieving that without a textwall
(10:05:42 PM) Fe_Lopez: NaP had an understood backstory of "hey, you're a ninja, we're pirates, let's fuck eachother up"
(10:05:45 PM) Fe_Lopez: "Cool?"
(10:05:47 PM) Fe_Lopez: "cool."
(10:05:59 PM) Roulette1134: other than maybe combined shortstories
(10:06:04 PM) Roulette1134: which is still textwall
(10:06:06 PM) Fe_Lopez: I just told you.
(10:06:11 PM) Fe_Lopez: Make a textwall.
(10:06:45 PM) Fe_Lopez: Summarize it, compress it into a few paragraphs so anyone skimming it can get right in, then make the original available for you crazy completionists
(10:07:19 PM) Roulette1134: ughh
(10:07:20 PM) Captain-Lightning: .choose Fe_Lopez, Captain-Lightning
(10:07:21 PM) Roulette1134: summary
(10:07:21 PM) Classhole: Captain-Lightning: Fe_Lopez
(10:07:35 PM) Captain-Lightning: Fuck
(10:07:39 PM) Fe_Lopez: uh?
(10:07:49 PM) Captain-Lightning: I guess I'll be writing the summary then.
(10:08:05 PM) Fe_Lopez: We need an actual story first
(10:08:08 PM) Roulette1134: yeah
(10:08:17 PM) Captain-Lightning: We have an actual story
(10:08:20 PM) Captain-Lightning: Just no plot
(10:08:22 PM) Fe_Lopez: ...
(10:08:26 PM) Fe_Lopez: ok sure.
(10:08:34 PM) Roulette1134: plot is the most important bit...
(10:08:42 PM) Fe_Lopez: The RP creates the plot.
(10:08:52 PM) Roulette1134: ah, still on rp
(10:08:56 PM) Fe_Lopez: Our backstory is just a situation or a setting
(10:09:05 PM) Roulette1134: do we have all of our batshit cultures at the ready?
(10:09:08 PM) Fe_Lopez: Yes, we've been on RP this whole time.
(10:09:17 PM) Fe_Lopez: Fuck the abtshit cultures.
(10:09:23 PM) Captain-Lightning: We have a room full of random people, and we've got them documented down to a T. It's just that we haven't ever come to a conclusion on what happened afterwards
(10:09:27 PM) Fe_Lopez: Those can come in at the game.
(10:09:37 PM) Roulette1134: okay good
(10:09:42 PM) Roulette1134: we agree on something here
(10:10:03 PM) Roulette1134: i thought that was far to regimented myself
(10:10:09 PM) Fe_Lopez: Yeah.
(10:10:39 PM) Fe_Lopez: I never thought we should have RPers restricted to our batshit cultures.
(10:10:44 PM) Roulette1134: so what you want is a setting
(10:10:57 PM) Fe_Lopez: Rather, provide a brief description of our batshit cultures in our setting.
(10:10:59 PM) Fe_Lopez: Yes.
(10:11:10 PM) Fe_Lopez: But I want a setting that's like 10 pages long.
(10:11:22 PM) Fe_Lopez: I want a charles dickens setting
(10:11:37 PM) Fe_Lopez: And then I want you to take that dickens setting
(10:11:39 PM) Roulette1134: included in that would be vague political atmosphere and possible motivations for existing in our world
(10:11:44 PM) Fe_Lopez: And I want you to maake the sparknotes of it.
(10:12:06 PM) Fe_Lopez: And then I want you to take that sparknotes
(10:12:18 PM) Fe_Lopez: And make the dumbass kid's 10th grade report on moby dick
(10:12:22 PM) Roulette1134: ughh
(10:12:24 PM) Fe_Lopez: And put that in the portal.
(10:12:26 PM) Roulette1134: i hate humans
(10:12:56 PM) Roulette1134: trimming the fat, and most of the good meat
(10:13:01 PM) Roulette1134: down to the bone 
(10:13:03 PM) Fe_Lopez: Yes.
(10:13:05 PM) Roulette1134: is what you're saying
(10:13:21 PM) Roulette1134: do we even have a complex version  of that yet?
(10:13:27 PM) Roulette1134: as in
(10:13:31 PM) Roulette1134: the whole animal?
(10:13:31 PM) Fe_Lopez: Because we don't want people to be turned off from joining by a 10 page long textwall.
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(10:13:36 PM) Fe_Lopez: No, we don't.
(10:13:48 PM) Roulette1134: we should probably figure that shit out then
(10:14:07 PM) Roulette1134: and we should use the more powerful cultures and aspecets of the rifts and world themselves
(10:14:18 PM) Captain-Lightning: The rest are out of the window
(10:14:31 PM) Roulette1134: well
(10:14:35 PM) Fe_Lopez: I want something taht will allow someone who has JUST COME IN to be able to read 3-5 paragraphs and get the gist of our entire setting for the site.
(10:14:36 PM) Captain-Lightning: Let's simplify it down to the Blessed, the Atlanteans, and the Rohani.
(10:14:48 PM) Roulette1134: yeah
(10:14:52 PM) Roulette1134: that's what I'm getting at
(10:15:05 PM) Fe_Lopez: But
(10:15:07 PM) Captain-Lightning: Futuristic what-have-yous, Magical fuckasses with god complexes, and psychic assturds
(10:15:30 PM) Fe_Lopez: I also want something to be posted in a "story" tab that will allow someone who's interested to view the entire setting.
(10:15:36 PM) Roulette1134: yes
(10:15:40 PM) Fe_Lopez: Sounds good Noddy.
(10:15:40 PM) Roulette1134: i've got you there
(10:16:28 PM) Fe_Lopez: Yes.
(10:16:29 PM) Captain-Lightning: Let's take it for granted, they are all evil. Because it doesn't get any better than "Kill the other guys"
(10:16:36 PM) Captain-Lightning: You are one group of dudes
(10:16:40 PM) Captain-Lightning: And that other group of dudes over there
(10:16:43 PM) Captain-Lightning: Wants to kick your ass
(10:16:44 PM) Fe_Lopez: We want it to be /easy/ to get inside our ring of RPers.
(10:16:49 PM) Roulette1134: yes
(10:16:51 PM) Captain-Lightning: You come to the forums to fight other assholes
(10:16:53 PM) Captain-Lightning: Now get to it
(10:17:00 PM) Fe_Lopez: Yes.
(10:17:05 PM) Fe_Lopez: That sounds very good.
(10:17:11 PM) Roulette1134: so why not leave it at simple themes
(10:17:17 PM) Fe_Lopez: So
(10:17:35 PM) Fe_Lopez: We need
(10:17:43 PM) Fe_Lopez: 1) a big long dickens setting
(10:17:55 PM) Fe_Lopez: 2) a comprehensive summary of that setting
(10:18:33 PM) Roulette1134: okay
(10:18:34 PM) Fe_Lopez: 3) An in depth story detailing each of our batshit cultures and why you want to kill them.
(10:18:46 PM) Roulette1134: okay
(10:18:49 PM) Fe_Lopez: 4) A remake of the forums.
(10:19:05 PM) Fe_Lopez: The forum can be done tonight.
(10:19:15 PM) Fe_Lopez: The dickens setting might take a while.
(10:19:35 PM) Captain-Lightning: Alright. Fuck everything else, let's assume the world was split into three distinct regions rather than replaced randomly. Your job is to topple the other two
(10:19:39 PM) Captain-Lightning: Makes things a lot easier on the RP end
(10:19:57 PM) Fe_Lopez: I think the best would be to kill all three.
(10:20:07 PM) Fe_Lopez: You're a part of a separate state
(10:20:12 PM) Fe_Lopez: Who wants to kill everyone
(10:20:16 PM) Fe_Lopez: Or some shit
(10:20:18 PM) Fe_Lopez: I dunno man
(10:20:29 PM) Fe_Lopez: This way you don't have to choose a side
(10:20:29 PM) Captain-Lightning: Or perhaps you are a high ranking member of your culture's government or whatever
(10:20:33 PM) Captain-Lightning: And you kill your own people to get to the top
(10:20:33 PM) Fe_Lopez: Maybe
(10:20:40 PM) Captain-Lightning: tl;dr, kill everyone
(10:20:46 PM) Fe_Lopez: Do we want them to choose a side in this?
(10:20:50 PM) Roulette1134: this seems chaotic
(10:20:54 PM) Captain-Lightning: Good
(10:20:54 PM) Fe_Lopez: Like on NaP?
(10:20:57 PM) Fe_Lopez: Nah.
(10:21:07 PM) Fe_Lopez: I'm thinking something very similar to NaP's sides.
(10:21:17 PM) Fe_Lopez: Upon registration, you choose a culture
(10:21:18 PM) Roulette1134: that's be interesting for RP
(10:21:20 PM) Captain-Lightning: Perhaps make people play as mercenaries or spies?
(10:21:30 PM) Captain-Lightning: So they can stay sideless, that is
(10:21:36 PM) Fe_Lopez: We wanted competition right?
(10:21:38 PM) Fe_Lopez: Well
(10:21:42 PM) Captain-Lightning: Sides it is.
(10:21:52 PM) Fe_Lopez: You choose a culture, your goal is to kill the others
(10:21:56 PM) Roulette1134: yes
(10:21:56 PM) Captain-Lightning: None of that 'x side only' board bullshit though
(10:22:01 PM) Fe_Lopez: And we make a competition system similar to NaP.
(10:22:06 PM) Fe_Lopez: No?
(10:22:06 PM) Roulette1134: yes
(10:22:26 PM) Roulette1134: but what about people who don't want to choose a side?
(10:22:29 PM) Roulette1134: though
(10:22:37 PM) Captain-Lightning: Fuck 'em
(10:22:41 PM) Captain-Lightning: They read up and they choose
(10:22:44 PM) Fe_Lopez: I think that only got to be stupid when we introduced the "everyone can see eachother and fuck shit up" reward
(10:23:00 PM) Fe_Lopez: Mostly because of derek.
(10:23:02 PM) Captain-Lightning: What I'm saying is there shouldn't be any side specific boards
(10:23:08 PM) Fe_Lopez: And his band of pirate trolls.
(10:23:21 PM) Roulette1134: wasn't there
(10:23:24 PM) Roulette1134: don't remember
(10:23:40 PM) Captain-Lightning: I always felt like NaP's competition was pretty lacking, because it essentially boiled down to the winner was whoever could pull more hats out of their ass in two paragraphs per post
(10:24:02 PM) Fe_Lopez: Yes, well, we make it similar in structure only
(10:24:27 PM) Fe_Lopez: Meaning whoever is winning against the other two groups of fuckasses gets a shiny trophy
(10:24:43 PM) Fe_Lopez: We just need to determine what "winning" means
(10:24:59 PM) Roulette1134: what if we did the challenge campaigns
(10:25:02 PM) Roulette1134: at least for one
(10:25:13 PM) Fe_Lopez: Which is really the meat of the competition.
(10:25:19 PM) Roulette1134: yeah
(10:25:32 PM) Fe_Lopez: So we can have something like NaP but at the same tie completely and utterly different