================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : Testing, testing 1-2-3 ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : Beta posting to see if the room works or not ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : SCJ Chat Message : There we go ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : slaix223 Chat Message : Heya. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : Whew! Glad to see it worked ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Max (RedTH) Chat Message : It works haha ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Sketchie Chat Message : X3 ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Steve Fisher Chat Message : Hi :) ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Steve Fisher Chat Message : Well this is better than latest MSN' group conv ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : ryudragnier Chat Message : I prefer being able to just talk with everybody all at once. And thanks to Omega, I can now only imagine us all piloting mecha. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Max (RedTH) Chat Message : *Gundam Morenatsu* ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Steve Fisher Chat Message : Older msns were fine until MS ruined it, i only use it for 1-2 people in chat at same time ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : RyuDragnier Chat Message : Oh God, THAT SHOULD BE DONE! ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : RyuDragnier Chat Message : I put my money on Kyouji being Char Aznable! ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : Gundamnatsu - Where furry kids fall into cockpits and pilot killer robots ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Max (RedTH) Chat Message : I know from experience some crossovers should stay in your head, haha ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Steve Fisher Chat Message : *has no idea of Gundam other than play odd game on 360, just transformers* ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Max (RedTH) Chat Message : Gundam. Freaking. Seed. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Steve Fisher Chat Message : yeah i know, just not names of robots/such. I havent watched it ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Steve Fisher Chat Message : despite I like mechs/robots ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : RyuDragnier Chat Message : As long as you don't mention Destiny, we're fine. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Max (RedTH) Chat Message : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZFA2MJMM-A This song. It brings so many memories x3 ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : RyuDragnier Chat Message : Screw that, Gundam Wing is where my journey began: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqEny2Ir_Sk ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : And, thanks for participating with this guys ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Max (RedTH) Chat Message : Omg. Me tooooo I love wing ! ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Max (RedTH) Chat Message : Just wild beat, communicaaaashuuun ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Steve Fisher Chat Message : No problem. I'll try be more active - I just have CSS time from 8pm (7:44pm now) until 10pm everyday but other than that, real life stuff alongside, im on most of time. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : SCJ Chat Message : SD Gundam ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Steve Fisher Chat Message : Living in small town = may as well stay on pc all day :p ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : RyuDragnier Chat Message : Eww...just...EWW. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : RyuDragnier Chat Message : Also, Steve, if you want to get into Gundam, a more recent series that was good enough to start at is Gundam 00. The opening: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6sxqq1rLVI ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Max (RedTH) Chat Message : Anyway, weren't we supposed to talk about the VN project ? x) ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Max (RedTH) Chat Message : (talking about Gundom00, freaking Ash Like Snow. I love this song) ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : RyuDragnier Chat Message : We were supposed to talk about the VN project, yes. But when you talk about Gundam, YOU HAVE MY FANBOY COMING OUT! ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Steve Fisher Chat Message : Well it never hurts to have casual talk with each other every now and then. Also cheers Ryu; I'll find whole season on torrent with english subs or something when i can find time ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : lol Red has a point ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : Lemme see who else I can add ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Sketchie Chat Message : Yeah, I was wondering why we were talking about Gundam in a VN discussion room >3> ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Max (RedTH) Chat Message : Check Megaupload ! You will ... Oh wait :bamdamtss: ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Steve Fisher Chat Message : Unless we're ditching Furry and make it Gundam Love Story VN. :T ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : RyuDragnier Chat Message : This is the internet, where randomness appears outta nowhere. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Max (RedTH) Chat Message : Or Gundamnatsu. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : RyuDragnier Chat Message : Speaking of which...we going to be using just 5 people for the love interests, correct? ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Steve Fisher Chat Message : Yeah better start with small ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Steve Fisher Chat Message : get hang of it ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : First things first, I suggest we lay out some ground rules ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Max (RedTH) Chat Message : Agreed ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Sketchie Chat Message : The ground should stay dirty. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Max (RedTH) Chat Message : Wut ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : First, I think we should try to keep this nice and civil at all times. Let's try to avoid drama, and if possible hash that out somewhere ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Steve Fisher Chat Message : Yeah that sounds fair ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Max (RedTH) Chat Message : I HATE YOU ! *cuts himself* ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Max (RedTH) Chat Message : No seriously yeah, that sounds obvious. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : lol yeah, but sometimes the obvious needs to be said :P ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Steve Fisher Chat Message : Not saying you dont need to say it ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Steve Fisher Chat Message : its worth to say obvious things at times ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Sketchie Chat Message : To be... or not to be... that is the question. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : RyuDragnier Chat Message : Ahh Horatio, I knew him well. We used to go bowling together on Saturdays. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Steve Fisher Chat Message : Shit, my mates want me to play CS:S in five mins - I'll be back in two hours or so, assuming this is still about when i exit css ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : It's alright. I think the chat logs this convo for you to view later. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : RyuDragnier Chat Message : CS? ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : RyuDragnier Chat Message : Also, it does. You enter skype again, all our messages will start appearing in the chat box. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Steve Fisher Chat Message : Ahh thats nifty - And CS - Counter Strike ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : I'm ready for some brainstorming!~ ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Steve Fisher Chat Message : :S bit is Source ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Yuki Wataki Chat Message : I will help ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Max (RedTH) Chat Message : I thought you were talking about CSS as in HTML/CSS, haha ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Steve Fisher Chat Message : rofl, well if I knew how to CSS I would, but alas I only can do html...not that I do webdesign anymore ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Steve Fisher Chat Message : right i'll see you guys later, will talk more once im done with CS:S ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Max (RedTH) Chat Message : See you~ ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : nyu? ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : RyuDragnier Chat Message : Who be these two? ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : Im the amazing marco! ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : I hail from the MTL irc chat ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : Thanks :) ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : RyuDragnier Chat Message : I don't think I know a marco... ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : umm I dont go on the forums all too much ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Sketchie Chat Message : Amazing Marco? XP ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : Second rule is, I hope no one gets offended with this one, is to try to avoid getting creepy with the conversation. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : RyuDragnier Chat Message : Considering what we all are, that's going to be hard. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Yuki Wataki Chat Message : More like the super lazy marco ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Max (RedTH) Chat Message : That's what the said ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : >.< ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Sketchie Chat Message : ^^; ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : Amazingly lazy ^_~\ ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : I mean, I know that with discussing furries we'll end up getting hot and bothered, but let's try not to let that overflow, gents ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Sketchie Chat Message : (Yet amazingly cute) ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : Anywho.. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : lol ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Yuki Wataki Chat Message : Haha marco cute? ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : Lets get back on topic ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Sketchie Chat Message : He is, trust me Yuki X3 ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Max (RedTH) Chat Message : At this rate we'll never talk about the project lol ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : RyuDragnier Chat Message : So you and Yuki are from the IRC? ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Yuki Wataki Chat Message : I know I know I only kid ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Yuki Wataki Chat Message : Yup ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : RyuDragnier Chat Message : I don't do IRC. IT DESTROYS MY SOUL! D: ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : RyuDragnier Chat Message : Anyways, yes, the rules. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : Do all said hasubando's have to be furry/ ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Max (RedTH) Chat Message : ... that's a good question, but I would tend to say "yes" ? ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : Hmm, are there any other rules that need to be added? ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : I like the layout that you have in the forum. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : I preferably like the college setup ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : RyuDragnier Chat Message : Maybe a topic for each day? ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Max (RedTH) Chat Message : Well if there's only like 5 dateable characters making one human would even restrain the number of beastman ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : Good point ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : RyuDragnier Chat Message : Hmm...then make one a monkey. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : So we got two rules for now. If anyone thinks there should be a new one added, then feel free to speak up later, okay? ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : RyuDragnier Chat Message : alright. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : So far what are they? ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Sketchie Chat Message : One of them should be a husky. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Sketchie Chat Message : A yellow husky. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Sketchie Chat Message : With glasses. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : RyuDragnier Chat Message : I feel huskies are a bit overplayed. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Sketchie Chat Message : ...aww. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Yuki Wataki Chat Message : .... ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : and his name HAPPENS TO BE JEFF? ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Yuki Wataki Chat Message : Silly ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Sketchie Chat Message : No, his name could be... uh... Jeffy! ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : RyuDragnier Chat Message : But the way I see it, we should have a canine, a feline, at least one scaled creature, and the other two being rarer species. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Max (RedTH) Chat Message : Agreed with Ryu. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : RyuDragnier Chat Message : Maybe an avian and an aquatic mammal? ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Sketchie Chat Message : Orca! ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Yuki Wataki Chat Message : Well tigers r kinda over played... ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Max (RedTH) Chat Message : Pumas are sexy ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : I would like either a panther or a tiger character to fit the feline species ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : Guys, I know you're excited for making characters and all, but I think we're getting a bit ahead of ourselves ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : unless you guys want creativity and want something like.. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : maybe a lynx? ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : RyuDragnier Chat Message : Then what should we talk about today, Omega? ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Yuki Wataki Chat Message : Couger? ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Max (RedTH) Chat Message : Anyway I was about to say the same thing as Omega, that's not the first think to discuss about ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : SCJ Chat Message : Setting? ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : Before characters, we should focus on the foundation of the story ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Max (RedTH) Chat Message : *thing. Gah ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : The theme, setting, and plot ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Max (RedTH) Chat Message : Now that you talk about it, maybe we should chose a general theme ? ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Max (RedTH) Chat Message : Like, P4 is accepting yourself. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Max (RedTH) Chat Message : And P3 accepting death. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Max (RedTH) Chat Message : It could guide us. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : SCJ Chat Message : Well, what would you say Morenatsu's theme is? ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : RyuDragnier Chat Message : Well what's the general theme of Morenatsu, just to wonder? ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Max (RedTH) Chat Message : I've never said Morenatsu had one, haha ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Max (RedTH) Chat Message : Maybe that's why roads are so different ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : How bout... mid march til early june.. General times would be after classes. maybe mid afternoon. Characters can discuss how well/bad their days went (club activites/jobs) ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Max (RedTH) Chat Message : Anyway that's just an idea like that, never mind ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : Morenatsu's theme was...the transient beauty that is summer ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : That while you may find something pure, enjoyable and beautiful in it, it will always come to an end sometime ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : RyuDragnier Chat Message : Well, if we're going for a college location in game, maybe we could sorta make the theme "Growing Up"? ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : character development ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Max (RedTH) Chat Message : Mmm, that makes sense, Omega. And why not, Ryu ? ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : If it's growing up, it depends on the age of the MC, but that's a good start ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Yuki Wataki Chat Message : why not a theme with trust? ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : Well that would sort of go in hand with growing up no> ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Max (RedTH) Chat Message : Or maybe accepting the difference ? Mmm maybe that's a bit cliche ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : Lets work on cliche for now until a btter idea comes around ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Yuki Wataki Chat Message : Ehh wat about first love? ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Max (RedTH) Chat Message : If it's about growing up, it does not specially have to be physically. It can be about making choices, even if it's difficult ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : Thats kind of WAY too cliche ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : Growing up would be learning from past experiences ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : maybe a bad love CAn come into play ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : If it's set in a college town, then maybe a theme of "New Experiences?" ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Sketchie Chat Message : Hmm. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : That works! ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Yuki Wataki Chat Message : Wat about betrail? (i cant spell XP) ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : SCJ Chat Message : Building relationships from the ground up ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : SCJ Chat Message : Like, from nothing ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : A coming out story would fit in that sort of scenario (even though its frowned upon) ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Max (RedTH) Chat Message : Mmmm, I don't see how "new experiences" is moral in any way. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Max (RedTH) Chat Message : I meeaaan, when you chose a theme it's meant to send a message, like, "never back down" ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : does it have to be moral? ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Max (RedTH) Chat Message : "New experience" doesn't send any message to me. Players won't even notice it. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : It doesn't have to be a giving out a moral ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : It's just something that's there and makes you think "Oh, I'm going through/went though something like that" ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Max (RedTH) Chat Message : Yeah, probably. It's just that the theme for me is linked to the global impression of the game. And I'm not sure how "new experiences" would turn out ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : RyuDragnier Chat Message : It's too vague. You want to just wait until we get down to the actual writing before doing that ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : Yeah ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : Still, a lot of the ideas here could be combined with each other. With a college setting, we could see a lot of those ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Max (RedTH) Chat Message : So anyway, let's move on, maybe. How about brainstorming about the MC ? ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Max (RedTH) Chat Message : If we decide who he is we'll have a big part of the story already ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : RyuDragnier Chat Message : For species, do you want to leave it completely vague and never touch on it, or just make him human? ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : It depends what our style will be. Will we make an MC and make a story that will fit him, or will we make the story first and fit the MC then ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Yuki Wataki Chat Message : Hmm... ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : RyuDragnier Chat Message : I would say go for the MC. Once we have a personality, it'll be easier to make it around him. Besides, we don't want another Hiroyuki. *shudders* ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : As far as scecies go, let pretend they's human for now until we have a story to work with ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Max (RedTH) Chat Message : Mmm, I'm pro "no blank state" MC. Even if he is not exactly like the players, at least the story will be a bit more consistent ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Sketchie Chat Message : Or we could make it so you can make your own character at the start of the VN! ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Sketchie Chat Message : ... ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Sketchie Chat Message : Okay, maybe that's a bit too ambitious. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : Like build it? ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Max (RedTH) Chat Message : It would be way too complicate, haha ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : customize the main char? ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Sketchie Chat Message : Yeah XP ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Sketchie Chat Message : That's what I'm talking about, Marco-kun. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : Skyrim i fy ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Max (RedTH) Chat Message : We don't have a story yet, let's not jump into an interactive one please ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Yuki Wataki Chat Message : Dont bring skyrim into this ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Yuki Wataki Chat Message : Well does it depend on the college? Like a subject? ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Yuki Wataki Chat Message : Math science,etc.. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : RyuDragnier Chat Message : Too much coding work. Unless of course, we pull off an easy system for it. And by easy, I mean do a character name "fill-in-the-blank" sort of thing. You mention the MC's name, and everybody in the game will call him by either his first or last name. Name his species, and their dialogue will change depending on the species. Or better yet, a choose the species, between human, furry, and scalie. Can make things just vague enough. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Max (RedTH) Chat Message : I think the only way to move on is to take decisions and then change it according to everyone's opinion. So let's start, haha. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : RyuDragnier Chat Message : But then again, we should wait until much later before we try doing that, as for all we know, it could be a coding nightmare. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Sketchie Chat Message : Yeah ^^; ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Sketchie Chat Message : Let's just make it simple for now. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Max (RedTH) Chat Message : MC is a 18 human coming from the city ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Max (RedTH) Chat Message : Discuss ! ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Sketchie Chat Message : Since it'd be the first VN. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : I don't think we should decide just yet ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : RyuDragnier Chat Message : On his personality? ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Max (RedTH) Chat Message : Well it's not really about deciding, more about seeing what people like the most. Like a poll ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : SCJ Chat Message : Human freshman just entering college ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : RyuDragnier Chat Message : Hmm...you want to wait until we got a general plot for each 'route' before we do that, so we can coordinate the personality? ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : SCJ Chat Message : Like, the start of the VN is him moving into his room ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : Personally, there are gonna be more people coming in here, and I'm sure they'll want to have a say in things as well. It'd be like a kick in the balls for them if they got here, had this great idea, and got it turned down because things were already decided earlier ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : SCJ Chat Message : Which is conveniently all to himself ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Max (RedTH) Chat Message : So what are we even doing here, haha ? ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Sketchie Chat Message : Red has a point. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : @Ryu: More like let's keep the ideas flowing for now ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Max (RedTH) Chat Message : There's no way we'll come to something if at some point we don't start stating things x) We can change them after if that's the problem. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : RyuDragnier Chat Message : Only other ideas I got are for plot, and we can't touch that yet. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Yuki Wataki Chat Message : Were pretty much brain storming red ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Yuki Wataki Chat Message : Geting ideas here and there ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Max (RedTH) Chat Message : I know. Maybe I've said it wrong. My point was to have everyone's opinion and write something temporary, and then see with the others that aren't here ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : RyuDragnier Chat Message : Only thing I can think of dealing with theme, is a "coming to terms" sort of thing. Maybe have the MC having had a somewhat bad past, with each route revolving around a certain part of it he has to come to terms with. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Yuki Wataki Chat Message : So in a way forgiveness? ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Max (RedTH) Chat Message : Otherwise we can just launch a few ideas like this, haha. Maybe I'm trying to go to fast. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : RyuDragnier Chat Message : Or turn that around with the love interests having a bad past, with the MC helping them cope through it. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Max (RedTH) Chat Message : Ryu >> that's pretty much the point of every dating game, actually ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : Ahh, I'm sorry about that. I'm just trying to be as diplomatic as possible with this thing since I'm completely new at this ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : RyuDragnier Chat Message : It's cliche enough to work. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Max (RedTH) Chat Message : If I take P3 & P4, in both of them you must help your SL to overcome their problem. I'm not saying this is a bad idea, just that it's pretty much logic, haha ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : RyuDragnier Chat Message : Well, that's how friendships grow, and also how love blooms. A real life cliche. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : Well it has to be Sorta realisitc no? ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : Hmm, at this rate I think a good idea is to have different paths have different things to expect from ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : Like, if the main theme is "new experiences", the five paths have stuff like "curiosity" "experimentation", "bad pasts" etc. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Yuki Wataki Chat Message : Hmm instead of one rout ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : RyuDragnier Chat Message : I demand that one route deals with an older guy. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : RyuDragnier Chat Message : And by older guy, I mean 40s. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : sounds reasonable. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : bothing older than 45 though ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : RyuDragnier Chat Message : We need some mature love in there. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Chooch Chat Message : Hello hello. I apologize. I had to step out for a bit, but I have caught up with what has been discussed so far ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : nothing* ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Sketchie Chat Message : Mmm... romance with a teacher~ ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Max (RedTH) Chat Message : Mmmm, maybe that's my personal tastes speaking, but around 35 would be better for me. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : @Chooch: It's cool man. :) And welcome back ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Yuki Wataki Chat Message : Why not have just one game but it goes as days, and u choose wat u do/or say.Thus changing the story as u play? ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : that would make it too complex Yuki ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Sketchie Chat Message : "Teacher, I have a question about homework due tomorrow." "Please, just call me Max..." *romantic music plays* ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : @Yuki: It's because we're trying to keep things simple for now ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Max (RedTH) Chat Message : Max ? *coughs* ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Sketchie Chat Message : XP ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Yuki Wataki Chat Message : Lol ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Sketchie Chat Message : You know what I mean Red. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : If there's gonna be an older man path, I got this idea ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : RyuDragnier Chat Message : Simple would just be making a decision at the beginning of the game that determines who you meet. For example, after unloading stuff into your room, have 5 choices appear on what to do. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : (looks at all the moving pencils) ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Max (RedTH) Chat Message : Let's not turn this into a reverse pedo road, though ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Sketchie Chat Message : "Yes... Max, I have a question about this part of the homework..." "Really? Show me." *he cups the MC's hands as he looks on the paper* ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Max (RedTH) Chat Message : It must be cute/deep (no pun intended) enough to be more than just a sex story ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Sketchie Chat Message : "Your hands, MC... they're pretty soft." "Max... what are you doing...?" ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Max (RedTH) Chat Message : In other words we need to find something this teacher's struggling with to make him really likeable, and innocent ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : You have this older bear (species may change), who is organizing this seminar. He catches you eyeing up this eye candy and he asks you if you're a fag ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Sketchie Chat Message : "Ahh... sorry about that, MC. I've crossed the boundary. I apologize." ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Chooch Chat Message : [3:40:49 PM] Max (RedTH): It must be cute/deep (no pun intended) enough to be more than just a sex story <<< I'd argue this is important for every character's story ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Max (RedTH) Chat Message : Yeah indeed haha, but it's even more important with a teacher/student relationship IMO ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : You can always opt to have a one night stand with a side char ^_~ ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Max (RedTH) Chat Message : And I'm totally for the old bear teacher thing XD ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Max (RedTH) Chat Message : ( I mean the fact he's a bear, not that he's that rude ) ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : The bear realizes what he said and blushes and apologizes to you, as he explains that he just had that old-school family influence and didn't mean anything bad ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : That sounds dramatic enough.. MC runs out the class after hearing that. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : Teacher Runs and apologizes once more and realizes what was going on. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : Clueless at first? ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : Well, I imagine the MC is too confused whether he should be offended for the fag word or find the guy cute for his apology ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Max (RedTH) Chat Message : Hnnng, that's an interesting idea but I would have seen the teacher more sensitive. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Max (RedTH) Chat Message : But on another hand, a sweet daddy bear ... ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Max (RedTH) Chat Message : *nosebleed* ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Sketchie Chat Message : X3 ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : During the next two encounters, the bear asks you about what it's like being gay and stuff and you get this clue about him ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Sketchie Chat Message : A forbidden student/teacher love would be pretty interesting in a VN. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : by the third time around, he's asking you to help him out by showing him what it's about ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Max (RedTH) Chat Message : What bother me a lot is that it's only about sexual tension. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Max (RedTH) Chat Message : It's a furry VN, okay, but you can't build a story around "what is being gay ? Show me~" ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : @Max: I never said it's gonna be about sexual tension ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : RyuDragnier Chat Message : That's bothering me too. It should be far more gradual, not so sudden like you're saying. That's more of a doujin. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Max (RedTH) Chat Message : That how it sounds, sorry x3 ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : You're gonna get this scene where the MC is freaking out about the teacher asking him for sex but then it turns out the teacher just wants you to tell him some more information about it ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : Maybe the student meet the teacher outside of school, say grocery store ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : they hang out ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : innocent fun ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Yuki Wataki Chat Message : Innocent fun.... ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : <Bear> Huh? What were you thinking about? ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Max (RedTH) Chat Message : I still think the teacher should have his own "problem"/plot he's struggling with. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : Maridal issues ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Max (RedTH) Chat Message : Not involving MC, I mean. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : @Max: Oh, don't worry, there's gonna be problems in it ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : The bear's asked the MC out on a date as a favor first, in order to see part of the gay lifestyle or something like that ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : During the date, you get to know that the teacher is in fact gay, but kept it buried and married instead ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : RyuDragnier Chat Message : Hmm... ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : This isn't the typical coming out story though ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : What if the character is striaght gay and the bear notices no difference on the MC ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : The teacher was happily married to his wife, who died in an accident/illness ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Yuki Wataki Chat Message : Uhh straight gay? ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : RyuDragnier Chat Message : To be honest Omega, I'm not liking how this is coming out. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : and he's not worried about his identity, for he'd mention that whatever word used to describe him, he'd still be himself ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Max (RedTH) Chat Message : That's interesting. Not how I would have seen at first but interesting. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : His problem is that he feels like he's left behind ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : Its intresting but im not digging that the teacher asks the student on a date ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Yuki Wataki Chat Message : Yea ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : As someone born in an age where gay was considered being a laughingstock/wrong, he finds it jarring how there's acceptance now, if only a bit ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Max (RedTH) Chat Message : Anyway aren't you getting a bit too carried away by this idea ? I mean as you said it yourself everybody's isn't there, we don't have to decide a whole road haha ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : Putting that way, its WAY more relatable ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : lol sorry sorry, I got carried away ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : We have to set one path at time anyway ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : RyuDragnier Chat Message : How about we make it so the teacher happens to visit a local gamestore where they sell D&D or something like that. The MC is surprised to see him there, the teacher mentions a few nerdish game things, and the MC immediately responds to it, causing them to hit it off. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : so lets work with this for now ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : And it doesn't have to be a teacher, it could be someone from outside a school faculty. Alternatively, the MC isn't a student in the school ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : it has its ups and downs and a story is being made ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Max (RedTH) Chat Message : The "teacher bear/student" relationship idea is enough for now, I guess. I mean we have the idea and we'll discuss about it after, but I think we should be think about another road now ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Max (RedTH) Chat Message : So the people not being there can still react about it ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : Sorry about that. I just had that idea boiling in me for days now ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : RyuDragnier Chat Message : In other words, make something the two have in common. This should be true for all routes. For example, if there's a guy in a gang, make it so that while he acts tough, he's really hiding his real self, somebody who the MC is similar to. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : RyuDragnier Chat Message : All friendships have a specific common ground which starts bringing them together. For example, me and my best friends are all gamers, and we became friends by starting out by talking about videogames. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : RyuDragnier Chat Message : We should probably try something like that for the routes. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : RyuDragnier Chat Message : As in, that common ground establishing first. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Max (RedTH) Chat Message : You can sometimes become friend with someone who's totally different from you, and then realize he has something in common. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Max (RedTH) Chat Message : With the teacher/student thing that's how I see it, actually. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : RyuDragnier Chat Message : I personally have never seen it happen. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : As I said, it doesn't need to be a student/teacher haha ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Max (RedTH) Chat Message : I'm too lazy to say with other words Omega haha ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Max (RedTH) Chat Message : Ryu >> I'm friend with a guy at school, and we have nothing in common. I just found him nice *and cute*, we're in the same class but we're as different as two people can be. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : Also, since we're in a small lull right now, there's something I need to ask you guys about ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : RyuDragnier Chat Message : Which is? ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Yuki Wataki Chat Message : Hm? ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : Lycan suggested we post the chat logs so that others can see what we've talked about ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : but he also suggested having a tl;dr version of it, for convenience's sake ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : My question is, how are we gonna set that up? ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Max (RedTH) Chat Message : Oh God you should have tell it sooner *thinks about all his typos and his stupid ideas* ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : RyuDragnier Chat Message : tl;dr version: All we can decide on is that it will revolve around college in some fashion, there will be 5 love interests, and I think that's it. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Max (RedTH) Chat Message : And the older guy road idea ( in shorter version ) ? ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : RyuDragnier Chat Message : It will be a faculty member of the college, species possibly bear. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Max (RedTH) Chat Message : And maybe the "general theme" idea ? ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : RyuDragnier Chat Message : That, I don't think we came to any general conclusion on. It's too hard to decide on without first going over each character's profile. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Max (RedTH) Chat Message : MMm ... the idea was to keep the theme in mind while writing the road, not the other way around. But otherwise that was just an idea like this, I don't really care x) ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : RyuDragnier Chat Message : So who's saving the chatlog? ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : lol I'm not sure how to save the chatlogs myself, being new here and all ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : RyuDragnier Chat Message : I just select all of the chat, and copy/paste to Microsoft Word. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : *nods* Sounds good ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : You guys wanna take a short break first? Either to get the brain juices refreshed or wait for others to catch up? ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : RyuDragnier Chat Message : I have to go pick up mom from work now, so I'll take you up on that offer. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : RyuDragnier Chat Message : Talk to you guys after I get back. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Max (RedTH) Chat Message : It's 10PM here so I'll probably go to bed soon, anyway, so I guess that's all for me today x) ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : SCJ Chat Message : I think Skype saves the logs ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Yuki Wataki Chat Message : Yea I think it does ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : That's good to hear ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : And see you guys later! ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Yuki Wataki Chat Message : Hey SCJ ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : SCJ Chat Message : Hey Yuki ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Yuki Wataki Chat Message : Heh u sure sleep alot bud ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : SCJ Chat Message : Yeah... >.> ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : BTW ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : How am I supposed to vew the logs? ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Yuki Wataki Chat Message : I dont really talk to u much anymore ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : SCJ Chat Message : http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/skype_log_view.html ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Yuki Wataki Chat Message : Haha im still laughing that u feel asleep in the beginning of our rp ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Yuki Wataki Chat Message : U should sleep more ^ ^;; ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Yuki Wataki Chat Message : Ur time of sleeping is way off ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : Bli= umineko-san=Francisico? ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Francisco Goya Chat Message : Yes. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Yuki Wataki Chat Message : Wat? ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : SCJ Chat Message : Actually, it kinda fixed itself ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : SCJ Chat Message : I slepts at around 8:30 ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Sketchie Chat Message : Bli used to come to the IRC chat, Yuki. I think you weren't there during that time. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Yuki Wataki Chat Message : Ahh good ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Yuki Wataki Chat Message : Wat time u wake up? ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : Okay, I know that stuff happened back then ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : Kewl! I just came back from eating dinnerwith mom and am ready to kick some more ass ^_^ ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : And I can see both sides perspective ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : I just ask to let it go for now in this room, where we discuss ideas and stuff ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Sketchie Chat Message : Umm... ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : I'm game! ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Sketchie Chat Message : I honestly don't really remember what happened back then anyway. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : ditto ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Sketchie Chat Message : But, anyway, let's not bring it up again. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : Alright, if you guys don't remember, then let's not bring it up again ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Sketchie Chat Message : Yeah. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : Bring WHAT up? ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : *snickers* ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : T_T ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : has this chat already been logged? ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : I'm not sure ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : i could do it but i dont know how consitant i can be with doing it, ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Chooch Chat Message : Skype automatically keeps chat logs ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : SCJ Chat Message : Um, don't remember ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : SCJ gave me this link: http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/skype_log_view.html ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : The link he sent me is something to read the chat logs ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : That works too ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Yuki Wataki Chat Message : Ok ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Yuki Wataki Chat Message : Oh I remember bli from irc ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Derbeon Greywolf Chat Message : I have his skype...if you want to try and add him ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Francisco Goya Chat Message : I'm here, Derbeon. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Derbeon Greywolf Chat Message : oh hey Bli ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Francisco Goya Chat Message : Long time we don't talk, huh, Derby. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : So Bli, Got any ideas on setting char development ect? ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Francisco Goya Chat Message : Sorry about ignoring you. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Derbeon Greywolf Chat Message : heh, is okay, I didn't really try to talk with you either ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Francisco Goya Chat Message : Uuuh, well, I don't know what have you guys already thought about. I'd rather hear some of it first. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : Hang on, lemme try this program link thing ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Yuki Wataki Chat Message : Well I got to go for now I got to get going to my judo tournament.I will try to b on later,not sure if the hotels have wifi.If not see u guys sunday ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Sketchie Chat Message : Seeya Yuki~ ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : We talked about a college theme and we talked about one route in particular on a relationship between a student and teacher. or a younger man (20's) and a man in his mid 30's ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : Huh, it seems I need to close Skype completely before I'm able to view the logs ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : i still have mine open ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : i'll copy paste ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : TL;DR version: We spoke of the two rules. 1: Keep things nice and civil. Two: Try not to let the conversation get too creepy ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : Talked about possible themes for the story: "growing up", "trust" "accepting differences" "First love", "bad love" and "new experiences" ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : -Make the MC's personality and then build the story around him. Also, avoid making another Hiroyuki ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : Well, that works too ^^; ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : my skype auto logs EVERYTHING ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Francisco Goya Chat Message : Well, first of all, this is going to be a college story, right, starting from the first year, right? ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : so add me in the conversation even if im offline ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : i'll get everyhthing ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : We havent decided really ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : Im leaning towards maybe a second year ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Francisco Goya Chat Message : Well, A first year student sounds like the best way to start for me. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Derbeon Greywolf Chat Message : why not mix it up a bit? ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Francisco Goya Chat Message : Generally speaking how long is a college run? ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : We're just getting some ideas first, making some small decisions, and possibly changing them later depending on the opinions of those who haven't read the logs yet ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Francisco Goya Chat Message : 3-4 years? ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Derbeon Greywolf Chat Message : Do they really have to be of the same year? ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : My idea with second year is that the first year can be used as back sotry and stuff to be reflected upon ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : Story* ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : Does it have to be 3-4 years? That seems way too much time to invest in a story, unless it has loads of timeskips ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : and the time period period is to be a few months ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : I made a mock time frame is people are intrested ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : i say mid march to early june ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Chooch Chat Message : I like the idea of it being the first year of college because it's kind of a new beginning where you meet a lot of new people. If the main character lives in a dormitory one of the potential love interests could be a roommate that he'd be meeting for the first time ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : Never thought about it that way ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Francisco Goya Chat Message : I was thinking on starting first year, with a prologue about the main character living on his home-town, the last day before he takes the bus or whatever, before going to the city. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : If we're going for a college year, then don't classes start around august or something? ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : we can discuss that love route a bit next time! ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Francisco Goya Chat Message : Well, first of all, I don't really know how the college thing works on other countries, in mine, dorms don't really exist, students generally look for some short of apartmente to rent. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : My spring semester start in january and ends early may ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : started* ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : So generally im starting the story mid semester and ending it after the semester ends ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : a dorm sounds more college-y, but it also has a big risk of introducing loads of characters ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : a few side characters cant hurt ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : I mean, if you're going for a feel of a realistic dorm, then there needs to be interactions with loads of characters in it, which would otherwise steal teh spotlight from other potential characters ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : We can make the roomate the Cannon route ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Russell Chat Message : ... ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Francisco Goya Chat Message : What I was thinking myself was to have the main character and of his childhood friends rent a co-apartment route, to establish a possible route from the get-go. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Russell Chat Message : woah woah woah ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Russell Chat Message : slow down a bit ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Russell Chat Message : Cannon route? ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Russell Chat Message : really? ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : (were bouncing ideas around ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Derbeon Greywolf Chat Message : this is starting to sound an awfull lot like I.S.O. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : nothing is set in stone ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : SCJ Chat Message : There are sometimes 1 person rooms in dorms ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : If we're set with a college town setting, the two possible places the MC could live in are a dorm and his own apartment ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Chooch Chat Message : Either is fine with me ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : If it's a dorm, the cons are that there's a risk of investing too many side-characters in it to give it a feel of a real dorm, it's somewhat a cliche setting due to ISO and TCM, and it limits the character's age to college level ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : Or live with his parents. (MC lives close to the college) ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Francisco Goya Chat Message : Could it just be that the Dorm is small and it's usually reserved for exchange students and students with scholarships? ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : If it's an apartment, there needs to be a very good reason for the MC to have the money for that, has the possibility of giving him a broader age range and not necessarily making him a student, and has him live farther from possibly contacts ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : Living with his parents and commuting is an option, but seems the least appealing of the three since players might not feel too inclined to still live with their parents in college (particularly those who have a fantasy wish to get away from overbearing parents) ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : Especially if parents are never home due to business trips and such ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : The pros for living in a college dorm is that it's appealing and an easy environment to envision, getting to see people your age easily and sets the MC's age as his late teens ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : Pros for living in apartment is that we could give the MC neighbors that won't be found in a college setting, we could bump his age to a young adult, and a feel for independence ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : If it's set in a home, we can create a loving/bad family dynamic ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : Gah! Sorry. I overanalyzed things XP ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Chooch Chat Message : Didn't someone mention they didn't want the characters to be under the age of 20? I forget ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Russell Chat Message : I don't think I like the 'living at home' idea ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : @Chooch: For the dateable characters, yeah. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Russell Chat Message : I mean, it could work, but it dosen't sit well with me for some odd reason ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Chooch Chat Message : I'm not fond of the living at home idea with college in mind either ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Francisco Goya Chat Message : Hmm. That's actually awful normal here, but I won't question that. Is this gonna be some non-descript USA state? ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : Los Tokyo, Japanifornia :V ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : nyu? ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Chooch Chat Message : Oh it's normal for some college students to live at home, I'm just not fond of it in the context of this VN ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Francisco Goya Chat Message : I guess so. It'd add too many characters that wouldn't be too useful for story-telling porpoises. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Russell Chat Message : Not to mention, the addition of parents kind of mixes in a wierd way with the romance dynamic. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : Pro's of being in a home is that the MC can host study sessions of some sroty and thicken the plot some. (if and only if parents arent home to intrude) ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : sort* ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Francisco Goya Chat Message : Well, it'd work if you want to add some Gayngst to the mix. But not for much else. How about some rented-apartment then? ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Francisco Goya Chat Message : Pros of living at home, without pesky parents. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Francisco Goya Chat Message : And they could hold some short of party sometime, maybe. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Russell Chat Message : I'm not a fan of gaynst. That's kind of why I've been stressing the 'no coming-out stories' in this. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Russell Chat Message : But I'm far the the final word on it, so... yeah... ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Francisco Goya Chat Message : It's not like I love it or anything, but a gay paradise-bubble world doesn't seems like something that would work that well into a college. I mean, if even the principal, teachers and janitors were gay... ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : If we think about college as the place where new things are happening just around the ocrner waiting for you to discover it, then apartment and dorm are the best choices ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : it would be another morenatsu ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : Where the idea of gay being a total nrom... ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : norm.. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Russell Chat Message : The thing is, college is MUCH more accepting of the whole gay thing than the younger high school-esque environment. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Russell Chat Message : Honestly, I wouldn't mind this being more like Morenatsu in that respect. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Marco Dominguez Chat Message : Everyone is gay!~ ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Russell Chat Message : But I guess adding some biggoted ass holes would made for some interesting plot ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Francisco Goya Chat Message : No, no. I'm saying that, ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Francisco Goya Chat Message : We can't just have everyone be hot gay guys ._. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Russell Chat Message : It's cool ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Russell Chat Message : We can have some ugly gay guys too~ ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Russell Chat Message : lol ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Russell Chat Message : But in all seriousness, I do get what you are saying. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Chooch Chat Message : I understand not wanting gay paradise ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : I think what Bli also meant was to add some variety in the characters. Add in some straight dudes and girls in it ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Chooch Chat Message : Yeah I recall that being said ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Russell Chat Message : And I'm all for that. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Francisco Goya Chat Message : Well, basically, apart of the main cast characters, I think things would feel more natural if there were say, more "normal" people. I mean, it's not like they need to be important, but I imagine unless you're a really militant gay, most of us know/have been friends of straight people and girls. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Chooch Chat Message : Naturally ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Russell Chat Message : But how deep will we make those characters? ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Chooch Chat Message : It was weird how in Morenatsu all the females involved were just kinda ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Chooch Chat Message : There ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Francisco Goya Chat Message : They don't really need to be something deep really. I mean, even just having a face is already a step-forward. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Chooch Chat Message : And almost every male character you did meet who was even a side character was pretty gay ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Francisco Goya Chat Message : Well, basically, most Straight VN tend to fall into this too, apart of the main character, most of the cast is a girl. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Francisco Goya Chat Message : To have more options of people to fuck with. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : Another thing to consider, if we're going for the gay angle, how far should we go with it? ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : Should it be accepting gay-paradise like Morenatsu (I doubt most would agree to this) ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Russell Chat Message : I really rather not go TOO far with it. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Francisco Goya Chat Message : And well, straight guys would logically have... straight male friends. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : There's some bias, but for the most part iit's pretty light (I.E. Tooboe, ISO) ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Russell Chat Message : Those kind of plots, unless they are really well written, tend to be WAY to cliche. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : Or should it be ultra-deep gayngsecution like in Kyell Gold's works? ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Francisco Goya Chat Message : I'm always in for drama that is actually well-written, but for the first route we could do something like say, Tatsuki-route, which is far more on the idealistic and romantic scale. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Russell Chat Message : Like I said, that tends to be extremely cliché if not written extremely well written. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Russell Chat Message : I mean this IS 2012... Most of the western is a lot easier on the gay thing now. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Russell Chat Message : most ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Francisco Goya Chat Message : Isn't that just the USA and Canada. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Russell Chat Message : the important parts ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Russell Chat Message : yes ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Francisco Goya Chat Message : Derp. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Russell Chat Message : XD ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Russell Chat Message : just kidding ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Russell Chat Message : (But I'm pretty sure that most countries with European influences/pasts are like that too) ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Derbeon Greywolf Chat Message : Yeah, I think people are even more tollerant than in some US states ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Chooch Chat Message : Have we decided whether or not the protagonist is human or furry or not? That's another thing that was weird about Morenatsu. Hiroyuki was more or less the only human around. I think it was mentioned the Raimon serviceman was also human but yeah.. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Francisco Goya Chat Message : I'd prefer some short of human. I think Furry/Human tends to look fairly cute. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : It depends if we're going for the blank slate route or not ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Francisco Goya Chat Message : And it solves having to settle for a furry species that somebody may not like. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Chooch Chat Message : That's true ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Russell Chat Message : I think it would be cool if he was a furry, but I don't see it mattering all that much ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Lycan Chat Message : I think human. The whole audience surrogate concept. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Russell Chat Message : I mean... it would mean making some more art and images ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Russell Chat Message : but it's not like it would drastically change the sories ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Lycan Chat Message : Leave the complex stories to the characters in the routes. Keep the MC fairly bland, imo. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Russell Chat Message : Ahh ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Russell Chat Message : and that's another thing ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Russell Chat Message : I never liked the 'blank slate' mc ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Francisco Goya Chat Message : Well, you can't really have much of a complex story working too well if you have a stone as the side-character. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Derbeon Greywolf Chat Message : couldn't we make it so that you could chose what specie the protagonist is? ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Francisco Goya Chat Message : And then have to draw more CGs? ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Lycan Chat Message : Wouldn't that be a little bit much work? ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : Hot-damn, just look at all those pencils writing down stuff :V ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Lycan Chat Message : Changing up routes and art for something that'll have little relevance in the story? Hmm ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : say dude ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : can you send me a copy of the log? For lycan and people I'll add soon ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Chooch Chat Message : I think the main reason why I took slight issue with Hiroyuki being human is because the logical side of me didn't make any sense out of him being one of very few human members in a furry bara paradise ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Chooch Chat Message : It was supposed to be his hometown and it just felt.. silly ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : I think I see how to solve this ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Francisco Goya Chat Message : Well, barely anybody was the same species too. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Francisco Goya Chat Message : The town was made of minorities. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : Make the MC human, but also throw in some human side-characters ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Chooch Chat Message : Yeah ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Russell Chat Message : Ehh ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : As for the blank mc problem ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : We could make it so that at first, the MC is fairly bland ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : but as he spends time with the romantic interest and sub-characters in that route, he'll be influenced and grow as a character ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Francisco Goya Chat Message : That sounds like the best way. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Russell Chat Message : That could work ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : Say, one route where he spends time with the delinquents makes him become tougher, both in choices and in his thoughts ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Russell Chat Message : But remember ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : with the mature guy, he becomes more mature in mind ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : with the sensitive type, he becomes more empathetic ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Russell Chat Message : That does sort of beg the question: If this guy is SO boring, then why are these guys(the datable characters) even going out with him? ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Russell Chat Message : He should bring at least a little bit to the table. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Francisco Goya Chat Message : Yeah, true. That one was one problem with Morenatsu too. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Francisco Goya Chat Message : ...Why is anybody actually wanting to get into Hiro pants? ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Francisco Goya Chat Message : Does every beastmen has a Human fetish? ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Russell Chat Message : Exactly ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : Hmmm, we could make THAT the MC's flaw ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : A crippling self-doubt where he constantly thinks "Why did he pick ME?" "I'm not good enough for him" "I'm too boring!" ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Russell Chat Message : Ahh ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Russell Chat Message : Self-esteem issues ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Lycan Chat Message : That'd ruin the whole audience surrogate thing, and make the character kinda grating I think. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Chooch Chat Message : [5:42:29 PM] Francisco Goya: ...Why is anybody actually wanting to get into Hiro pants? Does every beastmen has a Human fetish? <<< Because five years beforehand he actually had a personality. Then he went to the city and lost all of it as well as memories from most of his childhood (as show at various points) lol ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : Hanging out with the romantic interest makes him think that he should change, and that drive, sincerity and passion draw the romantic character in ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Russell Chat Message : Wait ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Russell Chat Message : what do you mean by that Lycan? ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Lycan Chat Message : Honestly, the last thing I'd want to do is play as an MC with self-esteem issues. one of the routes? Sure. But the MC? No thanks. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Derbeon Greywolf Chat Message : ^ ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : @Lycan: It was just an idea haha ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Derbeon Greywolf Chat Message : I have to agree with Lycan on this ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : Plus, we could make the whole thing meta. where in the middle of the route the MC thinks that he no longer wants to be the boring bystander and wants to break out of his own mold ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Russell Chat Message : Well, that deals more with initiative/assertive-ness rather than self-esteem issues. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Russell Chat Message : It could work ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Derbeon Greywolf Chat Message : we would have to time his evolution right though, if we stay stuck too long in his initial character it might be bothersome... ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : Hmm, so instead of an MC who has self-esteem issues, he'd have issues about being the passive bystander? ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Russell Chat Message : And something right at the end would be far to jarring ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : slaix223 Chat Message : There's always the standard self-exploratory MC. If we're going with a college route, then we can simply have him confused about what he wants to do with his life. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Russell Chat Message : oh ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Russell Chat Message : I actually like that ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : slaix223 Chat Message : Isn't the entire point of college to help you discover what you want to do with your life and work on obtaining that? ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Derbeon Greywolf Chat Message : Mh, it is, I like that idea ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : That's a pretty good idea ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : There needs to be some very slight angst to it though that might just be me ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Lycan Chat Message : Only issue with that is, if I end up being one of the writers, I'd have to write something detached from the college concept. I myself have never been to college, money issues and all that. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : slaix223 Chat Message : Well, he can angst about how others around him feel so certain of their lives, but he doesn't. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : RyuDragnier Chat Message : I'm back, and I read all 225 messages. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : slaix223 Chat Message : Or anything else that might occur in his route. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Chooch Chat Message : I think slight angst about being uncertain of his future is realistic ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Russell Chat Message : it is ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : RyuDragnier Chat Message : I have it all the time. I'm in my 5th degree program, and I STILL don't know if it's what I really want to do. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Chooch Chat Message : He hangs out with other people to maybe get a feeling for various things ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : come to think of it, we don't even need to have the MC angst ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Chooch Chat Message : It's not like it ever starts out as a romantic thing ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : RyuDragnier Chat Message : I'm not a fan of angst to begin with ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : Silver Spoon does something similar where the MC has no idea what to do with his life but it never devolves into angst ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Lycan Chat Message : Yeah, possibly. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Russell Chat Message : Well I kind of guessed that the the romance thing wouldn't happen untill like half way through the game anyway ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : RyuDragnier Chat Message : Fun part will be his personality. It's hard to actually STATE how somebody is. Best way is with actions, not words. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Lycan Chat Message : At least. Pile on the filler. :P ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Russell Chat Message : Untill then, the main guy is still getting to know everyone ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Francisco Goya Chat Message : Just a question, but how does the whole college thing works out in the USA? When we enter university we have already paid the semester and decided our careers. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Lycan Chat Message : Well, in my case, I have NO idea. Still can't afford to go :x ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Chooch Chat Message : Maybe the main character sees hanging out with other people as an opportunity not only to get to know them better and befriend them, but to also see if it might spark his interest in what he wants to do ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : slaix223 Chat Message : You basically decide which area path you want to go in (Maybe), and then you just basically choose a list of classes you want to attend. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : RyuDragnier Chat Message : It's like that at colleges too, but the university decides what classes you want to take. If it's a technical college you go to (like me), you decide your own schedule, and they give you the list of classes to take, in any order you choose (though some are STILL prerequisites). ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Russell Chat Message : Payed for the symester? yes. Decided on a career? NO WAY ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : slaix223 Chat Message : Like, I'm a Computer Science major. But there are literally hundreds of different jobs that I could go into as one. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : RyuDragnier Chat Message : You too? ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : slaix223 Chat Message : And then there's more concentrated fields, like Computer Systems Science or Software Engineering. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Russell Chat Message : That's something that usually doesn't even happen untill like the second year of college. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : RyuDragnier Chat Message : I can tell you right now, it wouldn't surprise me if by the time I'm nearing my degree, I go, "I actually don't think this is what I want to go into..." ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Francisco Goya Chat Message : Oh, well, to us they give us the whole "what career are you gonna choose" speech on the last year of HS and expect us to choose something for when we have finished already. Went we enter university we have some short of set schedule and set career. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : RyuDragnier Chat Message : It wouldn't be too hard to make the MC as unsure as that. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Chooch Chat Message : I got to an art school, but even then there are a variety of fields you can go into such as game programming, game design, animation, graphic design and culinary ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Chooch Chat Message : Also film ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : RyuDragnier Chat Message : I could have gone to one, but that would be too far from my parents, and I get suicidal at times. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : RyuDragnier Chat Message : I don't handle pressure well... ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : slaix223 Chat Message : Yeah, you can get a "recommended" schedule, but that doesn't mean you have to take those classes. You can take any class you want, although there are times when you need to have credit for one class to take another, because you'll need the material for that previous class. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Lycan Chat Message : I for one, would love to get away from my parents O_O ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Lycan Chat Message : Before I lost my job, I was living away with some friends. It was great fun. I'd love to go back to that. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : RyuDragnier Chat Message : Lycan, I've been a shut-in my entire life, and my mom is the only one who has ever really comforted me and prevented me from actually doing it. Not being able to contact her due to say, power lines being down, would be all it would take to prevent me from stopping myself. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Lycan Chat Message : Uhh... why do you feel that way? ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Chooch Chat Message : That's unfortunate.. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : RyuDragnier Chat Message : Because it's true. None of my friends offline actually know the real me. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : RyuDragnier Chat Message : And there are only 4 of them. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Chooch Chat Message : Does anyone want to brainstorm other characters? ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Lycan Chat Message : Sounds like you need some new friends... ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Francisco Goya Chat Message : Well, I think a roomate character would be a near-must. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Chooch Chat Message : I know earlier people were discussing one of the love interests being a teacher ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : Not a teacher ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : Just someone older ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : RyuDragnier Chat Message : But enough of that tangent...though it does make me want to add a character who acts depressed alot, and possibly suicidal. Would help some players connect. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Russell Chat Message : Hey... ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : @Ryu: There's also the distinct possibility players would want to punch that character out ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Lycan Chat Message : So I've got that concept I wrote up in the thread, but I don't know how well that'd fit with the current idea. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Russell Chat Message : Maybe have the roommate be like an old buddy from highschool ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Russell Chat Message : Hetero of course ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : slaix223 Chat Message : I considered having a suicidal character. It didn't really work out, because of how little I actually understand about how a person feels when they're suicidal. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : slaix223 Chat Message : So I went with the flirty guy who likes having lots of sex. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : RyuDragnier Chat Message : I know alot about it. You feel depressed, everything is your fault, nobody cares about you, etc. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Russell Chat Message : I think haveing the roommate as a datable character would be a bit too easy/cliche ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Lycan Chat Message : I was depressed at one point, but I got over that. That said, I have experience I guess. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Francisco Goya Chat Message : I guess that would work out? Having your roomate for comic relief? ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Russell Chat Message : I think so ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : slaix223 Chat Message : He would be like Kenji from Katawa Shoujo. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : RyuDragnier Chat Message : I was thinking of Wallace, from Scott Pilgrim. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : slaix223 Chat Message : That's even better. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Lycan Chat Message : That works. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Omega Lupus Chat Message : If we're having a straight roommate, he'd better be a bro. ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Russell Chat Message : (I don't get the references... either of them) ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : RyuDragnier Chat Message : "Scott, I heard you're dating a high schooler!" "Wait, who told you?" "Wallace." "That gossipy bitch..." ================================================== ================================================== Display Name : Steve Fisher Chat Message : Back. I've read all of 290+ messages. x_x ==================================================